Today morning I was talking to a student of the Pontifical University Gregorian, Rome, studying Missiology. I showed him ‘my badge’ which I pin on my coat lapel.As I expected, he said that Vatican Council II does not say outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation but the Bible does say this.
So he asked me to explain AG 7 which I cited. I said it says all need faith and baptism for salvation. He had no
objection. I then said that Lumen Gentium 14 says the Church is necessary
for salvation. LG 14 is cited in the Catechism of the Catholic Church 846. It is titled Outside the Church No Salvation. He had no objective here too.
He asked what about Lumen Gentium 8, 16 etc? I said that now there was a discovery in the Church on Vatican Council II and I pointed to a giant size photo of Our Lady of Guadalupe behind him. There was something new.
Lumen Gentium 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, etc, I said, for me, refer to
hypothetical cases in 1965-2024.If someone was saved outside the Church it
would only be known to God. It is the same for LG 8, 16, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22
etc.They always refer to only physically invisible cases. They cannot be seen
in our human reality. If someone was saved as such, he would be in Heaven. This
is the common experience. It is something obvious. It is common knowledge. It
is common sense.
He said he was in a hurry.At the leftist Jesuit University in Rome, they would consider this conclusion of Vatican Council II; in this rational way, as fundamentalist. It would be rigidism, Anti Semitism etc. Students may not be allowed to study if they do not interpret Vatican Council II dishonestly. They cannot get a theology degree and cannot be priests.
The faculty and students at the Gregorian University and the other
universities and seminaries in Rome, are only allowed to interpret Lumen
Gentium 16 etc, as being a physically visible example of salvation, outside the
Church.So it emerges as a practical exception for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus,
the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors and the old Catechisms which say
outside the Church there is no salvation. But with Lumen Gentium 16 referring to
explicit cases, objective people in 2024, the old exclusivist ecclesiology of
the Roman Missal is made obsolete. So Pope Francis issued Traditionis
Custode.Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition and so liberalism could be
permitted in the Church. So Pope Francis issued Amoris Laetitia which allows
the divorced and re-married to receive the Eucharist at Mass.
But this is dishonesty. Since the Council should only be interpreted
rationally i.e. invisible cases of LG 16 must not be projected as being
explicit and known people in the present times ( 1965-2024).
It is schism with the past Magisterium when the Nicene Creed is
understood as, ' I believe in not one, but three or more baptisms for the
forgiveness of sins and they exclude the baptism of water. They are physically
visible cases of the baptism of desire, being saved in invincible ignorance,
the baptism of blood without the baptism of water, imperfect communion with the
Church without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church etc.
The Apostles Creed is changed to ‘we believe in the Holy Spirit, the
Holy Catholic Church which now teaches that there is known salvation outside
the Church and in the past the Holy Spirit taught over the centuries, that there is no known
salvation outside the Church.' So Church Documents (Creeds, Councils etc) have
to be interpreted irrationally to support this new theology and the general liberalism
which follows.
This student, Raphael from Argentina, realized he was saying the same
thing as me i.e. Lumen Gentium 16 is always invisible. He agreed with me. It
would be the same for his teachers at the Gregorian University. The Dean of
Theology there and the head of the Missiology Department, would have to interpret Vatican Council II only rationally and so reach the
same conclusion as me.
Even my Parish Priest Fr. Paolo Boumis, at the church Sant Agapito, Prenestina, Rome and the priests of the Missionaries of Charity (Contemplative) of Mother Teresa near Sant Agapito, agree with me on this central point and so do other priests in Rome. - Lionel Andrades
MARCH 16, 2024
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