KARL KEATING’S CATHOLIC ANSWERS IS CHANGING THE CATHOLIC FAITH TO AVOID BEING CLOSED DOWN ?

KARL KEATING’S CATHOLIC ANSWERS IS CHANGING THE CATHOLIC FAITH TO AVOID BEING CLOSED DOWN


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Michelle Arnold

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Are non-Catholics going to Hell?
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Yesterday, before my sister left my parents house, she said the church needs to change.

She says Catholics are too judgemental and that Catholics believe that all non-Catholics are going to Hell! I need help in answering these accusations. I believe that individuals within the church need to change, but what our faith is based on is beauty and truth. Can you help me explain this to her in a manner in which she may be more open to hearing?

May 24, '04, 11:55 am
Michelle Arnold
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Re: Salvation Outside of the Church
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For the Church's teaching on the salvation of non-Christians, see paragraphs 839-848 of the Catechism of the Catholic Church, especially this section:

"This affirmation [no salvation outside the Church] is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:
"Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men" (CCC 847-848).

"Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience -- those too may achieve eternal salvation.

For the Church's teaching on the fate of unbaptized babies, please see paragraph 1261 of the CCC:

For an overview of the historical development of the Church's teaching on the doctrine extra ecclesiam nulla salus (Latin, "Outside the Church, no salvation"), I recommend the article "Can Outsiders Be Insiders" by Fr. Peter Stravinskas:

As regards children who have died without Baptism, the Church can only entrust them to the mercy of God, as she does in her funeral rites for them. Indeed, the great mercy of God who desires that all men should be saved, and Jesus' tenderness toward children which caused him to say: 'Let the children come to me, do not hinder them,' allow us to hope that there is a way of salvation for children who have died without Baptism. All the more urgent is the Church's call not to prevent little children coming to Christ through the gift of holy Baptism."

http://www.envoymagazine.com/backiss...overstory.html


Jun 12, '04, 3:35 am


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Extra ecclesiam nulla salus
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Hi,
Could you recommend a book that addresses the history of this teaching. I am in a conversation with a Protestant who argues that the Church, since Vatican II, has "changed the requirements for salvation."

Thanks.

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Re: Extra ecclesiam nulla salus
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"Can Outsiders Be Insiders?" by the Rev. Peter M. J. Stravinskas (article):


http://www.envoymagazine.com/backiss...overstory.html

Salvation Outside the Church? by the Rev. Francis A. Sullivan, S.J. (book):


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...19116?v=glance
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What is the relationship between Jews and Catholics?
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I'm confused about the relationship between Jews and Catholics. I have an acquaintance -- actually, my boss -- who seems very angry that I am now Catholic. I don't understand why.
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Apr 8, '10, 3:12 pm

Michelle Arnold


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Re: What is the relationship between Jews and Catholics?
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Without more information, I cannot comment on your particular situation. As for the relationship between Jews and Catholics, the Second Vatican Council stated:


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As the sacred synod searches into the mystery of the Church, it remembers the bond that spiritually ties the people of the new covenant to Abraham's stock.

Thus the Church of Christ acknowledges that, according to God's saving design, the beginnings of her faith and her election are found already among the patriarchs, Moses, and the prophets. She professes that all who believe in Christ -- Abraham's sons according to faith -- are included in the same patriarch's call, and likewise that the salvation of the Church is mysteriously foreshadowed by the chosen people's exodus from the land of bondage. The Church, therefore, cannot forget that she received the revelation of the Old Testament through the people with whom God in his inexpressible mercy concluded the ancient covenant. Nor can she forget that she draws sustenance from the root of that well-cultivated olive tree onto which have been grafted the wild shoots, the Gentiles. Indeed, the Church believes that by his cross Christ, our peace, reconciled Jews and Gentiles. making both one in himself.

The Church keeps ever in mind the words of the Apostle [St. Paul] about his kinsmen: "Theirs is the sonship and the glory and the covenants and the law and the worship and the promises; theirs are the fathers and from them is the Christ according to the flesh" (Rom. 9:4-5), the Son of the Virgin Mary. She also recalls that the apostles, the Church's mainstay and pillars, as well as most of the early disciples who proclaimed Christ's gospel to the world, sprang from the Jewish people (Nostra Aetate 4).
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Lionel 's Note : Catholic Answers  does not refer to the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), Notification on the book by Fr.Jacques Dupuis S.j (2001). The Notification indicated that there is no theology which could say that Judaism is a path to salvation. Jews need to convert for salvation. This is also the message of Dominus Iesus n.20.


Extra ecclesiam nulla salus (outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation is an ex cathedra dogma. For centuries it has meant that everyone with no exception needs to enter the Catholic Church through Catholic Faith and the Baptism of water to avoid Hell.
This teaching is rejected by Fr.Frank Sullivan S.J who teaches theology at Boston College and whose controversial book is recommneded by Catholic Answers.


There is a quotation from the Catechism on invincible ignorance. Yet we cannot say that de facto we are sure someone is in invincible ignorance. Since only God can judge. Also we cannot say that in any particular population someone specifically or more than a few persons are in invincible ignorance. We do not know with present levels of communication through the media.
So there is no contradiction of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus  with the theory of invincible ignorance.


Catholic Answers quotes from Nostra Aetate but ignores  Ad Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14. They indicate that all Jews need to convert and that millions of Jews in modern cities who are informed about the Church and yet do not enter are on the path to Hell.


Finally the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 affirmed the dogma as the infallible teaching. It also referred to implicit faith (invincible ignorance) as existing in 'certain circumstances'. Catholic Answers could suggest that implicit faith is the ordinary way of salvation.


Catholic Answers has given us the politically correct understanding of the Catholic Faith. It is another example of pro-Zionist Catholicism.