MOST HOLY FAMILY MONASTERY VATICAN COUNCIL II INDICATES ‘THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO SALVATION OUTSIDE THE CHURCH’, EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE A FORMAL MEMBER OF THE CHURCH TO AVOID HELL

Sedevacantists interpret Vatican Council II according to Rabbis Rosen and Segno

The sedevantists, Most Holy Family Monastery, USA (MHFM) call the Catholic Church the Vatican Council II sect and they criticize the liberal Jewish Left lobby for putting pressure on the Church to compromise in many ways.

Yet they use the interpretation of Vatican Council II as is done by the liberal Rabbis who are constantly seeking doctrinal changes in the Church in exchange for peace and economic prosperity.

Vatican Council II actually indicates that there is ‘absolutely no salvation outside the Catholic Church’.

The MHFM needs to read Lumen Gentium 16, Vatican Council II (1) according to the following step by step analysis in five points.

1. There is no genuine invincible ignorance which we humanly can know of. We do not know whom Jesus Christ will judge on the Day of Judgement as having invincible ignorance.

2. There is no explicit invincible ignorance (external, seeable, repeatable) known to us.

3. There is no implicit invincible ignorance (in principle we do not know any case).

4. We do not know a single case of invincible ignorance over the last 100 years.

5. We can only accept the existence of invincible ignorance as a concept. It is something hypothetical, a probability, a possibility known only to God.

So when LG 16 says non Catholics in invincible ignorance can be saved it is hypothetical, something we accept in principle. None of us knows any person in Islam or the other religions who is in genuine invincible ignorance. We cannot judge.

Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II states ‘all people’ need Catholic Faith and the baptism of water to avoid Hell and go to Heaven. AG 7 is saying ‘there is absolutely no salvation outside the Catholic Church’.(2)

So the Catholic Church is affirming in Vatican Council II the ‘rigorist interpretation’ of the ex cathedra dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, an infallible teaching which can only have one interpretation.

Similarly no where in the Catechism of the Catholic Church is there a quotation or citation which contradicts the rigorist interpretation of the ex cathedra dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

Without proof of anything contrary even the Rabbis Rosen and Segno would have to agree with a Vatican Council II interpretation according to the Sacred Tradition of the Catholic Church.

The Holy Father Pope Benedict XVI has said that Vatican Council II is not a break from Tradition.

The Most Holy Family Monastery say that there is no baptism of desire. They are correct there is no explicit or implicit baptism of desire. In this sense there is no baptism of desire. However they cannot say there is no baptism of desire as a concept. Since they discuss and write about the baptism of desire, so in this sense, at least they accept it as a concept.

The baptism of water is both a concept and a known reality (see able, repeatable and explicit).

The baptism of desire can only be a concept for us since it is known only to God.

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1. Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience.-Lumen Gentium 16, Vatican Council II.

2.Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II.



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