Vicariate’s Pastoral Care for the sick website indicates all people on earth defacto do not need the baptism of water for salvation accomodating the Richard Cushing Error.
Two hospital chaplains of Catholic hospitals in Rome agree that we do not know any defacto case of a non Catholic saved with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance.
Don. Ivan says we do not know a single such case in Rome. Also Fr.Tiziano also says there are defacto no such known cases.
Fr. Tiziano also accepts that we do not know any case of a non Catholic saved in ‘imperfect communion’ with the Catholic Church or with ‘the seeds of the Word’ (Vatican Council II).
It may be mentioned that the Rome Vicariate's centre for the pastoral care of the sick has issued a booklet in which the Catholic teaching on the necessity of baptism suffers from the Richard Cushing Error. It is the error of assuming that those saved with the baptism of desire etc are explicitly known to us and so are a defacto exception to the dogma outside the church there is no salvation.
To accommodate the Cushing Error, on page 8 of ‘I sacramenti dell’ iniziazione cristiana’ , the booklet does not state that baptism is defacto needed for all. Instead it says it is only necessary for those who have had the Gospel preached to them and who have the means to ask for the Sacrament of baptism. (1) This is true only in principle, de jure. De facto we do not known any exceptions to the baptism of water. So every one on earth needs the baptism of water given to adults with Catholic Faith, to go to Heaven.
The booklet issued by the Centro Della pastorale sanitaria Della Diocesi di Roma says that a person can be saved without the baptism of water through the baptism of desire or the baptism of blood (martyrdom).(2). It does not clarify that these are possibilities, 'in certain circumstances' (Letter of the Holy Office 1949) and these cases are defacto not known to us. They are explicit only for God. The ordinary means of salvation is Catholic Faith and the baptism of water.(LG 14,AG 7). In general, the ordinary means of salvation is not the baptism of water and being saved in invincible ignorance.
Pope Pius XII mentioned the dogma the infallible teaching (Letter of the Holy Office 1949). The dogma for centuries has been interpreted as saying all need to convert into the Catholic Church for salvation. The dogma does not mention any exceptions. The issue of baptism of desire and invincible ignorance emerged in only the 1940’s. It was the Archbishop of Boston and the Jesuits there who taught that those saved with the baptism of desire etc are exceptions to the dogma outside the church there is no salvation.
Pope Pius XII mentioned the dogma the infallible teaching (Letter of the Holy Office 1949). The dogma for centuries has been interpreted as saying all need to convert into the Catholic Church for salvation. The dogma does not mention any exceptions. The issue of baptism of desire and invincible ignorance emerged in only the 1940’s. It was the Archbishop of Boston and the Jesuits there who taught that those saved with the baptism of desire etc are exceptions to the dogma outside the church there is no salvation.
The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 was a criticism of the Archbishop since it mentioned the dogma which did not have any exceptions and since it mentioned the baptism of desire without claiming it was explicitly known to us.
The Rome Vicariate in saying that the baptism of desire etc are defacto exceptions is implying that there are defacto exceptions to a defined dogma and that it is also a contradiction of Vatican Council II (LG 14, AG 7).
There is no magisterial text which says that these cases are visible and known to us and that they are defacto exceptions.
The Vicariate has mixed up the de facto-dejure reasoning which is there within magisterial texts including the Catechism of the Catholic Church, Vatican Council II, the Letter of the Holy Office, Mystici Corporis of Pope Pius XII etc.
These Church documents do not assume that the baptism of desire etc are defacto but de jure, accepted in principle and known to God only. If these documents assumed that the baptism of desire was defacto known to us it would violate the philosophical Principle of Non Contradiction.
The booklet ‘I sacramenti dell’ iniziazione cristiana’ has good sound Catholic teaching except there is an error on the subject of the baptism of water being needed for all people in the present times for salvation.
A copy of the text in the booklet is also available on the website of the Vicariato, Rome.
http://www.vicariatusurbis.org/Sanita/DOCUMENTI/SUSSIDI/I%20sacramenti%20dell'iniziazione%20cristiana.pdf
-Lionel Andrades
A copy of the text in the booklet is also available on the website of the Vicariato, Rome.
http://www.vicariatusurbis.org/Sanita/DOCUMENTI/SUSSIDI/I%20sacramenti%20dell'iniziazione%20cristiana.pdf
-Lionel Andrades
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