Friday, December 23, 2011

Questions to ask the hospital Chaplain, University Chaplain or professor,Parish Priest or Rector of a Church

Ask your local chancellor or bishop.

1.The baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are exceptions to the dogma outside the church there is no salvation ? ( If this question is answered yes then it is the Richard Cushing Error)

2. So it means that the baptism of desire etc are known to us explicitly for it to be an exception ? ( They could answer no. We personally don’t know any case.)

3.We accept implicit baptism of desire (Council of Trent) and being saved in invincible ignorance (Lumen Gentium 16) however they are not exceptions to the dogma?( Yes. We accept them in principle but do not presume that they are exceptions to the dogma.)

4. There is also no magisterial text which does imply that they are exceptions? (No. None).

5. They  are not defacto exceptions to the dogma, they do not contradict the dogma outside the church there is no salvation which says defacto, explicitly every one needs to enter the Catholic Church for salvation ? (Yes. They are implicit and the dogma refers to explicit baptism of water given to adults who know the Catholic Faith so there is no contradiction.)

6.Fr.Leonard Feeney, the popes and saints were correct in saying everyone needs to be a visible member of the Church for salvation ? Yes.

7. Every adult on earth de facto needs the baptism of water and Catholic Faith for salvation and there are no known exceptions ? (Yes.)

-Lionel Andrades


HOSPITAL CHAPLAINS IN ROME SAY WE DO NOT KNOW ANY CASE OF A PERSON SAVED WITH THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/12/hospital-chaplains-in-rome-say-we-do.html

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