Mother Angelica also affirmed the dogma like Michael Vorris. The new management at EWTN under the liberal bishop removed those quotations from the Church Fathers. They replaced it with an article written by Fr.William Most. It suggested that those saved in invincible ignorance etc are known to us and so are exceptions to the dogma.
Real Cathollic TV has affirmed the dogma outside the Church there is no salvation, just as Mother Angelica did, however in a recent video it has denied it saying individual Protestants do not go to Hell. Real Catholic TV perhaps assumes that the exceptions are known to us.
There is a liberal, Protestant-Christian policy on the Forum of Real Catholic TV. To deny the dogma with the exceptions mentioned is heresy. To then receive the Eucharist in such a condition even after being informed...We bring pain to Jesus in the Eucharist.
There are two Catholic teachings
1)Those who know and do not convert cannot be saved as compared to those in invincible ignorance, and
2) every non Catholic with no exception on earth needs to convert into the Catholic Church for salvation (to avoid Hell).
This is not contradictory.
Only those who know and yet do not enter the Church is not contradictory to the dogma outside the church there is no salvation. Only God can judge who is in invincible ignorance and who ‘knows’. We cannot judge. The dogma says everyone needs to enter the Church. It does not say only those who know.
Real Catholic TV only those who know about Jesus and the Church and do not convert are on the way to Hell and not all non Catholics with no exception on earth ?
This would be assuming that we know cases of non Catholics saved in the present times, it is assuming we know of such exceptions. Only if we knew of particular cases would we be able to say not all people but only those who ‘know’.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church maintains those who know and cannot be saved in contrast to those in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire. The Catechism affirms the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.1.Defacto everyone on earth needs the baptism of water given to adults with Catholic Faith. (CCC 1257),everyone needs to enter the Church as through a door (CCC 846) the Church is like the only Ark of Noah that saves in the Flood (CCC 845).2. De jure in principle those who know cannot be saved and this would be known only to God.
In principle those are in invincible ignorance and are saved ,who do not 'know' , are known only to God, Simon Rafe of Real Catholic TV does not know any particular exception on earth.
1. De facto every one needs to enter the Church for salvation since the dogma teaches this truth.
2. De jure we accept that only these who ‘know’ and so do not enter the Church cannot be saved.
Since we do not know any of these cases, they are not an exception to the dogma. We do not know any Protestant exceptions.No individual Protestant cases who are saved are known.
All Protestants and Orthodox Christians know about Jesus and the Catholic Church with the present level of education and communication. De facto they all need to enter the Church.
De jure in principle there could be Christians in invincible ignorance. They can be saved.
So de facto every Christian on earth (Protestant, Pentecostal, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Orthodox Christians etc) needs to enter the Catholic Church for salvation.
In general Real Catholic TV teaches that Protestantism is heretical, there is mortal sin and most people go to Hell. In particular it needs to be said that those saved in principle in invincible ignorance and the baptism of desire are defacto not an exception to the dogma. All individual Protestants according to the dogma and Vatican Council II (LG 14, AG 7) need to convert to avoid Hell. In general they are oriented to Hell. If there are possible exceptions it would be known only to God. The exceptions are unknown to us.
Protestants contracep, abort and do not believe in mortal sin. They do not accept the Faith teachings of the Catholic Church and neither the moral teachings.
-Lionel Andrades
INDIVIDUAL PROTESTANTS DO GO TO HELL UNLESS THEY CONVERT INTO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
Michael Voris Hits the Jackpot…that is, “the dogma”- Brother André Marie MICM :RealCatholicTV affirms the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus
IF CARDINAL RAYMOND BURKE COULD BE ASKED…
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