FR.JOE JENKINS WANTS THE SSPX TO ACCEPT VATICAN COUNCIL II WITH THE VISIBLE DEAD THEORY: EVEN BISHOPS MULLER AND DI NOIA WANT THE SAME

Vatican Council II has to be interpreted in accord with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and without the visible dead theory then it could be accepted by the SSPX.It would be in agreement with the 'constant magisterium'.

You don’t have to be a Catholic to know that marriage is between a woman and man only similarly you don’t have to be a Catholic to know that the deceased are not visible to us in their human form, as when they were alive.

The Decree on Ecumenism, Vatican Council II does not contradict the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus -unless we assume that the dead can be seen. If one assumes like Fr.Joe Jenkins that the dead-saved are explicitly known on earth then there would be exceptions.

Similarly Nostra Aetate , Vatican Council II does not contradict the literal interpretation of the dogma- unless we assume that the ‘good and holy ‘ people in other religions, non Catholics who are saved, are known to us on earth and so they are exceptions to the dogma.

It’s this visible dead premise that Fr.Joe Jenkins wants the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX)  to accept.

This is irrational and non traditional and the Vatican Curia also expects the SSPX to accept this irrationality before they receive canonical status.

How can religious Superiors and the hundreds of bishops all over the world be silent about the claim of knowing the dead on earth, who are exceptions to the dogma on salvation and to Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II ?

The Archbishop of Boston Cardinal Sean O’Malley also will not answer two questions (1) like Fr. Jenkins. Since it expresses the truth of the media- created interpretation of Vatican Council Ii which Bishop Gerhard Muller and Archbishop Augustine Di Noia want the SSPX to approve.
-Lionel Andrades

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1) Do we personally know the dead saved in invincible ignorance, a good conscience (LG 16) etc ?

2) Since we do not know any of these cases, there are no known exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ?

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NOSTRA AETATE VATICAN COUNCIL II DOES NOT CONTRADICT THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/08/nostra-aetate-vatican-council-ii-does.html#links


DECREE ON ECUMENISM SUPPORTS THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/08/decree-on-ecumenism-supports-dogma.html#links )

FR.JOE JENKINS STILL WILL NOT SAY THAT HE CANNOT SEE THE DEAD AND THERE ARE NO KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/08/frjoe-jenkins-still-will-not-say-that.html#links