I would appeal to the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) priests Father Joseph Pfieffer, Father Chazal, Father Fox and others to keep the text of the thrice defined dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus before them along with Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II.
The two texts are:
1. Extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
(Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council, 1215,Pope Boniface VIII, the Bull Unam Sanctam, 1302,Pope Eugene IV, the Bull Cantate Domino, 1441.)
2.Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7)
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door.-Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II.
If you do not have the text before you and begin to discuss this subject it could lead to a lot of vagueness and confusion.When the text is before you people realize that this is the official teaching of the Catholic Church and not someone’s personal view.
No one would be able to produce any text from Vatican Council II to contradict the dogma or Ad Gentes 7.
I would invite anyone to prove me wrong. I know before hand my answers would be:-
1.“We do not know any one saved in invincible ignorance or a good conscience. So Lumen Gentium 16, Vatican Council II does not contradict the dogma or AG 7.”
2.“Theoretically it is a possibility. In reality we do not know any such case.So it does not contradict the dogma, AG 7 or even the Syllabus of Errors.”
3.Those saved with elements of sanctification or seeds of the Word are known only to God. So Lumen Gentium 8 or Dei Verbum, Vatican Council II does not contradict the text in front of me”.
4. “ The text does not say it (seeds of the Word) is explicit or that it ( imperfect communion with the church) contradicts the dogma or AG 7”
5. “We do not know who is in invincible ignorance and saved and who knows about Jesus and the Church and yet does not enter the Church and is in Hell . Only God can judge.The dogma and Vatican Council II (AG 7) says all need to convert into the Church to avoid Hell ( for salvation)”.
So if there are no known exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II the Council does not oppose the literal interpretaion of the dogma( the text is in front of us).
When Vatican Council II affirms the dogma, contrary to the liberal propaganda, then we have traditionalist values in ecclesiology, other religions, religious liberty etc.Vatican Council II is traditionalist.The Church may be a 'conciliar church' but the text of Vatican Council II is traditionalist.
Vatican Council II supports the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors and Pascendi. It is in agreement with the values of the SSPX priests.
-Lionel Andrades
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