Will they continue to reject the pro visible dead version of the Council?
Pope Benedict has not clarified if Vatican Council II has to be accepted according to Cardinal Vallini or Archbishop Di Noia.
For Archbishop Augustine Di Noia 'elements of sanctification'(LG 8) are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. He mentioned this in the interview with the National Catholic Register.So for him there are explicit exceptions. There are exceptions to the defined dogma on salvation. The dead are visible. So they can be seen saved with ‘elements of sanctification’.These 'visible cases' are known exceptions to the dogma on exclusive salvation for the Vice President of Ecclesia Dei, Vatican. Hence Jews do not have to convert for salvation for him. They not need the baptism of water for salvation.
On the contrary Cardinal Augustine Vallini says all need the baptism of water for salvation. This would mean there are no exceptions of being saved in invincible ignorance, a good conscience or elements of sanctification. These cases are not known exceptions in the present times, that is this year 2012. So all need the baptism of water. This is also the message of Vatican Council II (AG 7).
LG 16 does not contradict AG 7. Jews and all non Catholics need the baptism of water given to adults with Catholic Faith.This is the traditional version of Vatican Council II and is in accord with the SSPX values on other religions. It is without the theory of the visible- dead- saved.
The visible dead theory is irrational, non traditional and a new doctrine. It was not part of the faith until the 1940’s. It is the Cardinal Richard Cushing error. He assumed implicit desire and invincible ignorance contradicted the literal interpretation of the dogma by Fr. Leonard Feeney.To claim that there are alleged known exceptions to a defined dogma is heresy.Yet this is what the average Catholic says, including bishops and cardinals.
The SSPX could clarify if they need to accept Vatican Council II according to Fr. Leonard Feeney or Richard Cushing, Cardinal Vallini or Archbishop Di Noia.The SSPX could also clarify if the pope knows of the visible dead theory and how it influences the interpretation of Vatican Council II.
They must continue negotiations with the Vatican. Since Vatican Council II is really a traditional Council. They must continue to reject the Council with the visible dead theory.This is the Council of the liberals and dissenters. It is a break from Tradition.It is based on an irrationality. It encourages heresy.They must seek to enter the Church with full canonical status and with the correct interpretation of Vatican Council II.
-Lionel Andrades
CARDINAL AGOSTINO VALLINI, VICAR GENERAL FOR THE HOLY FATHER IN ROME HAS SAID THAT BAPTISM IS NECESSARY FOR SALVATION
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/10/cardinal-agostino-vallini-vicar-general.html#links
Archbishop Augustine Di Noia says the Holy Spirit preserves the Church from error including the interpretation of Vatican Council II- we now know there are two interpretations of Vatican Council II, which one is guided by the Holy Spirit ?http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/07/archbishop-augustine-di-noia-says-that.html#links
WHAT WAS THE THEOLOGICAL LIST GIVEN TO THE SSPX AT THE LAST CDF MEETING ? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/07/what-was-theological-list-given-to-sspx.html#links
CARDINAL MULLER AND ARCHBISHOP DI NOIA WHO ASSUME THERE ARE KNOWN EXCEPTIONS TO THE DOGMA SHOULD BE ASKED TO NAME THESE PERSONS : VATICAN COUNCIL II INDICATES THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS ' the only Church founded by Our Lord Jesus Christ, outside of which there is no salvation and no possibility of finding the means that lead to it'http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/07/muller-di-noia-assume-there-are-known.html#links
APPEAL TO BISHOP MULLER TO ACCEPT VATICAN COUNCIL II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/07/appeal-to-bishop-muller-to-accept.html#links
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