Monday, September 16, 2013

There is no ambiguity in Lumen Gentium 14 or Ad Gentes 7

Harvesting the Fruit of the Vatican II

(1:00.19) Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism(124) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church.-Louie Verrecchio quotes Lumen Gentium 14.
 
This passage interpreted with Feeneyism is in agreement with Tradition and the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This passage interpreted with Cushingism is a break with Tradition and causes ambiguity.
So it is the interpretation, one of the two, which determines if the Council is ambigous or not on the issue of other religions and Christian communities.
 
VATICAN COUNCIL II
 
14. This Sacred Council wishes to turn its attention firstly to the Catholic faithful. Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism(124) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church. Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.

They are fully incorporated in the society of the Church who, possessing the Spirit of Christ accept her entire system and all the means of salvation given to her, and are united with her as part of her visible bodily structure and through her with Christ, who rules her through the Supreme Pontiff and the bishops. The bonds which bind men to the Church in a visible way are profession of faith, the sacraments, and ecclesiastical government and communion. He is not saved, however, who, though part of the body of the Church, does not persevere in charity. He remains indeed in the bosom of the Church, but, as it were, only in a "bodily" manner and not "in his heart."(12*) All the Church's children should remember that their exalted status is to be attributed not to their own merits but to the special grace of Christ. If they fail moreover to respond to that grace in thought, word and deed, not only shall they not be saved but they will be the more severely judged.(13*)
Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own.-
 
 
Lumen Gentium 14,Vatican Council II
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Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it."Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him (Heb. 11:6), yet a necessity lies upon the Church (1 Cor. 9:16), and at the same time a sacred duty, to preach the Gospel...-Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II

FEENEYISM: The orange text does not contradict the text in yellow since the cases referred to are defacto not known to us, personally .We do not know and cannot know these cases. So they are not exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

CUSHINGISM: The orange text contradicts the text in yellow .It is assumed that these cases are known to us in the present times. We can see the dead who are known exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to Fr.Leonard Feeney.
-Lionel Andrades
 
 
 
 






 
 

Official and Un-official teaching of the Catholic Church:Congregation for Institutes of Religious Life and Societies of Apostolic Life ,Vatican is useing the unoffical, irrational one

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/08/official-and-un-official-teaching-of.html

OFFICIAL TEACHING OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THIS : ACCORDING TO MAGISTERIAL TEXTS ONLY

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/07/official-teaching-of-catholic-church-is.html
 

THE OFFICIAL TEACHING OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS THIS

1 comment:

George Brenner said...

With the following explanation, You have nailed completely:

FEENEYISM: The orange text does not contradict the text in yellow since the cases referred to are defacto not known to us, personally .We do not know and cannot know these cases. So they are not exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.




CUSHINGISM: The orange text contradicts the text in yellow .It is assumed that these cases are known to us in the present times. We can see the dead who are known exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to Fr.Leonard Feeney.

-Lionel Andrades

and the following completely
demonstrates the accuracy of the above quote: "God in ways KNOWN to Himself ( AND NOT TO US ) can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him (Heb. 11:6), yet a necessity lies upon the Church (1 Cor. 9:16), and at the same time a sacred duty, to preach the Gospel...-Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II.

This is what has been contradicted as you say Lionel , since VCII. Therefore yes VCII is accurate and in keeping with past Church teaching BUT nearly everyone in the Church teaches this incorrectly as you also say over and over and over again. To date there are not enough Catholics of good will who will clarify this and thus the crisis of faith continues. But fight and pray we must.

JMJ,

George Brenner