Wednesday, September 4, 2013

Vatican Counncil II is Augustinian on exclusive salvation

There is a positive paragraph in Fr.Gleize's book.He quotes St.Augustine saying that a man cannot be saved unless he is in the Catholic Church.One cannot even be a martyr unless one is in the Catholic Church.
I was talking to an Augustinian priest a few days back at the Augustine Convent, Campo Marzio,Rome ,where Pope Francis visited recently. We agreed that Vatican Council II was in agreement with St.Augustine on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.Also the Catechism of the Catholic Church was Augustianian.
In CCC 846(Outside the Church there is no salvation) we need to remember that there are no known exceptions in 2013 to the dogma on salvation and no magisterial texts mention any exceptions
 
Cantate Domino,Council of Florence 1441 says  a person cannot be saved even if he sheds his blood for Christ, unless he is in the Catholic Church.-Lionel Andrades
 
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p.152, Vaticano II Un Dibattito Aperto, Editrice Ichthys,2013
Sant Agostino,Sermon ad Caesariensis ecclesiae plebem,VaticanoII un dibattito aperto

1 comment:

George Brenner said...


Being Catholic or non Catholic can be explicitly seen in this life. If a person is saved by baptism of desire or Invincible Ignorance it would be confirmed by God only after death in the eternal life and not ever visible to us on earth as explicit (while a person is alive.) Therefore No Salvation Outside the Catholic Church as taught by Father Feeney is the only form of salvation that can be taught and offered to someone who is living and the possibility of mercies extended by God are irrelevant to teaching the faith with no exceptions whatsoever.

JMJ,

George Brenner