We do not know any objective case and it's theology is being discussed in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949

We do not know any objective case and it's theology is being discussed in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.We have principles ,declarations and theology based on non existent persons.

There are no known cases and the theology of a non existent case is being discussed.It is  as if we know someone in particular  who has been saved or is going to be saved a such.

Fr.R:

3.You agree that empirically, objectively the deceased are not visible to us on earth? Yes, of course

Therefore, no one will be saved who, knowing the Church to have been divinely established by Christ, nevertheless refuses to submit to the Church or withholds obedience from the Roman Pontiff, the Vicar of Christ on earth.-Letter of the Holy Office 1949

Lionel:

We do not know any case of someone 'knowing the Church to have been divinely established by Christ, nevertheless refuses to submit to the Church or withholds obedience from the Roman Pontiff,...'.You have agreed that empirically, objectively the deceased are not visible to us on earth? Yes, of course

Does not the  Letter imply that we do know such a case. So these persons , are inferred to be exceptions to all needing to enter the Church with faith and baptism. 

We empirically cannot see or know any exception and yet the Letter says here 'no one will be saved who, knowing the Church to have been divinely established..' Why mention this ? There is not a single person known as such and the Letter is putting forward principles and discussing the theology of a non existent person?

In His infinite mercy God has willed that the effects, necessary for one to be saved, of those helps to salvation which are directed toward man's final end, not by intrinsic necessity, but only by divine institution, can also be obtained in certain circumstances when those helps are used only in desire and longing. -Letter of the Holy Office 1949

Lionel:

Again the Letter of the Holy Office assumes that those saved with 'only desire and longing' are physically visible on earth to be exceptions to the traditional interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney. We do not know any objective case and it's theology is being discussed above. We have principles ,declarations and theology based on non existent persons.

 

However, this desire need not always be explicit, as it is in catechumens; but when a person is involved in invincible ignorance God accepts also an implicit desire, so called because it is included in that good disposition of soul whereby a person wishes his will to be conformed to the will of God. -Letter of the Holy Office 1949

Lionel:

This seems like a lot of nonsense. There are no known cases and the theology of a non existent case is being discussed.It is  as if we know someone in particular  who has been saved as such or is going to be saved a such.

 

1949

Richard J. Cushing, Archbishop of Boston – Decree Regarding Leonard Feeney, April 18, 1949

Rev. Leonard Feeney, S.J., because of grave offense against the laws of the Catholic Church has lost the right to perform any priestly function, including preaching and teaching of religion.

Any Catholics who frequent St. Benedict’s Center, or who in any way take part in or assist its activities forfeit the right to receive the Sacrament of Penance and Holy Eucharist.

Given at Boston on the 18th day of April, 1949.

Lionel:

'has lost the right to perform any priestly function, including preaching and teaching of religion.' Note, we now have an Archbishop Richard J.Cushing  who is teaching that there is known salvation outside the Church when he does not know of a single such case.

Since Fr.Leonard Feeney would not admit that there is salvation outside the Church he removes his right to teach religion etc.

-Lionel Andrades