Friday, August 19, 2016

No denial from the FSSP too : dogmas and doctrine changed

In the last report 'No denial from the SSPX: dogmas and doctrine changed', I could very well have replaced the name SSPX with that of the  FSSP.
The FSSP ( Priestly Fraternity of St.Peter) are in same doctrinal confusion as the SSPX and the contemporary magisterium.

Here is that same report on the SSPX with the adaptation.

FSSP DOCTRINAL CONFUSION
There has been no denial of my report last week titled 'SSPX has changed dogmas and doctrine' posted on this blog and Gloria TV in English and Italian.
Nor was there any criticism of my doctrinal and theological position(from the SSPX or FSSP) when I affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus( Feeneyite), Vatican Council II( Feeneyite), Catechism of the Catholic Church ( Feeneyite) and the Nicene Creed ( Cushingite).Theologically for me there are no exceptions to the teachings on the Social Reign of Christ the King over all political legislation.
The FSSP and SSPX  instead affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus(Cushingite), Vatican Council II( Cushingite),Catechism of the Catholic Church ( Cushingite)and the Nicene Creed ( Cushingite).For the FSSP there are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS)and so there are exceptions to the teachings on the Social Reign of Christ the King.
I explained my pro-Vatican Council II Catholic beliefs and defined my terms.Here they are again with the FSSP position.The FSSP doctrinal position is firstly irrational. The irrationality creates a false and non traditional conclusion. The result is heresy.


TERMS EXPLAINED

Feeneyism: It is the old theology and philosophical reaoning which says there are no  known exceptions past or present, to the dogma EENS.There are no explicit cases to contradict the traditional interpretation of EENS.
(FSSP rejects Feeneyism according to their official website in English)

Cushingism:  It is the new theology and philosophical reasoning, which assumes  there are known exceptions, past and present, to the dogma EENS, on the need for all to formally enter the Church.It assumes that the baptism of desire etc are not hypothetical but objectively known.In principle hypothetical cases are objective in the present times.
(FSSP supports Cushingism according to their official website in English and reports of SSPX bishops and priests)

Baptism of  Desire (Feeneyite): It refers to the hypothetical case of an unknown catechumen who desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is saved. Since this is an invisible case in our reality it is not relevant to the dogma EENS.
(FSSP rejects Baptism of  Desire (Feeneyite) according to their official website in English and reports of SSPX bishops and priests).

Baptism of  Desire (Cushingite): It refers to the known case of a catechumen who desires the baptism of water but dies before he receives it and is saved. Since this is a visible case or the SSPX it is relevant to the dogma EENS.
(FSSP supports Baptism of  Desire (Cushingite) according to their official website in English and reports of SSPX bishops and priests).

Invincible Ignorance ( Feeneyite): This refers to the hypothetical case of someone allegedly saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, since he was in ignorance.
(FSSP rejects Invincible Ignorance ( Feeneyite) according to their official website in English and reports of SSPX bishops and priests).

Invincible Ignorance (Cushingite): This refers to the explicit case of someone allegedly saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, since he was in ignorance.Since it is an exception to the dogma EENS it is assumed to be objectively known in particular cases.This reasoning is irrational.
(FSSP supports Invincible Ignorance (Cushingite) according to their official website in English and reports of SSPX bishops and priests).

Council of Florence.One of the three Councils which defined the dogma EENS.It did not mention any exceptions.
(The FSSP, like the SSPX, rejects Cantate Dominio, Council of Florence 1441 with exceptions to the dogma EENS)

Liberal theologians:They reinterpreted the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance, as objective cases, known in the present times.

(FSSP supports the Liberal theologians on the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible Ignorance as being objective cases).

Vatican Council II (Cushingite): It refers to the interpretation of Vatican Council II with Cushingism.LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc refer not to hypothetical but known cases in the present times. So Vatican Council II emerges as a break with the dogma EENS.
(FSSP interprets Vatican Council II withCushingism)

Vatican Council II (Feeneyite):It refers to the interpretation of Vatican Council II with Feeneyism.LG 16, LG 8, UR 3, NA 2 etc refer to hypothetical cases, which are unknown personally in the present times.So Vatican Council II is not a break with EENS, the Syllabus of Errors, ecumenism of return, the Nicene Creed ( Feeneyite-one baptism),the teaching on the Social Reign of Christ the King over all political legislation and  the non separation of Church and State( since all need to convert into the Church to avoid Hell).
(FSSP does not  interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism)
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Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston. It assumed hypothetical cases were defacto known in the present times. So it presented the baptism of desire etc as an explicit exception, to the traditional interpretation of the dogma EENS.It censured Fr.Leonard Feeney and the St.Benedict Center.Since they did not assume that the baptism of desire referred to a visible instead of invisible case.The Letter made the baptism of desire etc relevant to EENs.From the second part of this Letter has emerged the New Theology.
(With the error this  is accepted by the FSSP ).

Baltimore Catechism. It assumed that the desire for the baptism of an unknown catechumen, who dies before receiving it and was saved, was a baptism like the baptism of water. So it was placed in the Baptism Section of the catechism. In other words it was wrongly assumed that the baptism of desire is visible and repeatable like the baptism of water or that we can administer it like the baptism of water.
(The Baltimore Catechism is accepted with the confusion)

Catechism of Pope X. It followed the Baltimore Catechism and placed the baptism of desire in the Baptism Section.
(The Catechism of Pope Pius X is accepted with the same error.The imaginary case of the unknown catechumen should not have been placed in the Baptism Section. It contributed to the confusion).

Nicene Creed ( Cushingite) It says 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins' and means there are more than three known baptisms. They are water, blood, desire, seeds of the Word etc.
(The FSSP interprets the Nicene Creed with the Cushingite error.It assumes hypothetical cases are known in the present times.) 

Nicene Creed ( Feeneyite). It says 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins and means there is one known baptism the baptism of water.
(The FSSP does not interpret the Nicene Creed with traditional Feeneyism.)
 
New Theology: It refers to the new theology in the Catholic Church based on hypothetical cases being objective in the present times.So it eliminates the dogma EENS.With the dogma EENS made obsolete the ecclesiology of the Church changes. There is a new ecclesiology which is a break with Tradition.
(The FSSP uses the New Theology as did Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre) 

Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus ( Cushingite) .It refers to the dogma but with exceptions.All do not need to defacto convert into the Church in the present times, since there are exceptions.
(The FSSP's interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus is Cushingite. There are known exceptions to the dogma for them).

Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus ( Feeneyite).It  refers to the dogma as it was interpreted over the centuries.There are no known exceptions to all needing to formally enter the Church, with faith and baptism, to avoid Hell.
(The FFSP  are Cushingites. They reject EENS( Feeneyite).

Catechism of the Catholic Church ( Cushingite).CCC 1257 contradicts the Principle of Non Contraduction. Also CCC 848 is based on the new theology and so is a rupture with the dogma EENS( Feeneyite).
(The FSSP interprets the Catechism of the Catholic Church with  Cushingism) 

Catechism of the Catholic Church ( Feeneyite).CCC 1257 does not contradict the Principle of Non Contradiction since there are no known exceptions to all needing the baptism of water for salvation. There are no known exceptions, since God is not limited to the Sacraments.
When CCC 846 states all who are saved are saved through Jesus and the Church,CCC 846 does not contradict the dogmatic teaching on all needin to formally enter the Church. CCC 846 does not contradict Ad Gentes 7 which states all need faith and baptism for salvation.
(The FSSP does not seem aware of the Feeneyite interpretation of the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
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-Lionel Andrades

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AUGUST 19, 2016

No denial from the SSPX: dogmas and doctrine changed

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/08/no-denial-from-sspx-dogmas-and-doctrine.html

AUGUST 15, 2016
SSPX has changed dogmas and doctrine
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/08/sspx-has-changed-dogmas-and-doctrine.html

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JUNE 23, 2016

Fr.Chad Ripperger and FSSP priests not permitted by the Vatican to affirm the traditional teaching on salvation : Cushingism is obligatoryhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/frchad-ripperger-and-fssp-priests-not.htmlFSSP Crypt Mass43
FSSP and SSPX priests need to know that there is a mistake in the Letter of the Holy Office and Vatican Council II: there is an irrational premise
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/fssp-and-sspx-priests-need-to-know-that.html

Bishop Libasci

MAY 22, 2016

Manchester not united http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/05/manchester-not-united.html


Priestly Fraternity of St.Peter (FSSP) has changed Church teachings on family catechesis, religious education, salvation, mortal sin, ecclesiology...

March 21, 2015
No denial from FSSP

FSSP priests in Rome not allowed to affirm Vatican Council II, extra ecclesiam nulla salus without three irrational points: no denial from religious community

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