No surprise that the earthquake at Norcia destroyed the church which was a centre for the pro-Rahner Catholic traditionalists on the feast of Christ the King celebrated according to the Traditional Latin Mass calendar: bad philosophy irrational theology

Things I thank God for:
That there is such a thing as the logical principle of non-contradiction
That “a thing and its opposite cannot both be true in the same sense at the same time.”
That “A thing is that thing and not some other thing”
That “each thing is the same with itself and different from another”
That “things which equal the same thing also equal one another,”
That A = A
That “tertium non datur” – for any proposition, either that proposition is true, or its negation is true.
That “To say of what is that it is not, or of what is not that it is, is false”
That there is no “third way” between true and not true.
That there are fundamental axiomatic rules upon which rational discourse itself is based.
That it is possible to know that some things are true and some things not true.
That it is possible to discover which is which.
That yes means yes and no means no and that there is a difference between them.
That there is a difference between here and there, that up is not the same as down
That there is such a thing as distinctions and differences.
That reality is a thing.-Hilary White

That there is such a thing as the logical principle of non-contradiction- Hilary White

Lionel:

Hilary assumes that the baptism of desire refers to a known case in 2016 and so it is an exception to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.There would have to be a personally known case for there to be an exception to the teaching on all needing to be incorporated into the Catholic Church, as members.This is rational for her.

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 That “a thing and its opposite cannot both be true in the same sense at the same time.”

So she believes like the SSPX bishops and priests that every one needs to formally enter the Church in the present times for salvation but some do not need to so.

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That “A thing is that thing and not some other thing”

So there is someone who is allegedly in Heaven who is saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church .This person is real and not some other thing. And of course he is a living exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was interpreted in the 16th century.Completely normal?!

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That “each thing is the same with itself and different from another”

So she will not interpret Lumen Gentium 16 ( invincible ignorance) as referring to an invisible case. It is real in 2016.It is the same 'with itself', distinct, explicit 'and different' from other invisible cases which are visible. It is very real. Pope Benedict XVI has called this ' a development' in Vatican Council II.Based on invisible cases in Vatican Council II being visible there is a development of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. There is a modern version of the dogma.An acceptable innovation.

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That “things which equal the same thing also equal one another,”
That A = A

There are ghosts walking on the streets of Rome saved without the baptism of water and they are known to Hilary White.What happened to the Principle of Non Contradiction?

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 That “tertium non datur” – for any proposition, either that proposition is true, or its negation is true.
That “To say of what is that it is not, or of what is not that it is, is false”

No comment!!!

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That there is no “third way” between true and not true.

There is a third way for Hilary White and her traditionalists sponsors. So she supports it in spite of the irrational logic.

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 That there are fundamental axiomatic rules upon which rational discourse itself is based.

For her like the two popes their Rahnerian theology is rational  even though it is based on invisible cases being non invisible and hypothetical cases being objectively visible, people in Heaven are physically seen on earth. So their conclusion is Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition. The liberals and traditionalists use the same irrational reasoning and their conclusion on Vatican Council II is the same. One group rejects the conclusion though (SSPX) and the other accepts it(Vatican Curia/Left).It still is the cause of the hermeneutic of discontinuity on Vatican Council II.

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 That it is possible to know that some things are true and some things not true.

She and the two popes and the Vatican Curia and the traditionalists are sure they have got it right on Catholic doctrine.

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 That it is possible to discover which is which.

I hope so.

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 That yes means yes and no means no and that there is a difference between them.

Just about every Catholic is saying that every one needs to defacto enter the Church but some do not.Even the Catechism of the Church with Rahnerian theology (CCC 1257) says every one needs to enter the Church but some do not since 'God is not limited to the Sacraments'.The same Rahnerian theology is there in CCC 846.It does not say all need to enter the Church for salvation. Instead it says all who are saved are saved though  Jesus and the Church.This infers that there are known cases of people saved without the baptism of water and with the baptism of desire or in invincible ignorance.Most important for Hilary and the Vatican Curia- they are known personally.Otherwise how could they relevant or exceptions to the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.

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 That there is a difference between here and there, that up is not the same as down

But for Hilary those who are 'up there' are also  'down here'. They are  known.So they are  exceptions to traditional Catholic ecclesiology. Then it is concluded that there are exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the ecumenism of return and the Social Reign of the  Christ the King over all political legislation.

With this Rahnerian theology the monks at Norcia and traditionalists and liberals there, negate the teachings on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.The traditionalists also make use of  the  Rahnerian theology, the new theology even though they could avoid it , in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.

Their new doctrines are a theological negation of the teachings on Christ the King. For them theologically there are known exceptions to all non Catholics needing to enter the Church to be saved. So why must all political legislation have Jesus Christ as known in the Catholic Church , as its priority?
No surprise that the earthquake at Norcia destroyed the church which was a centre for the pro-Rahner Catholic traditionalists.It happened  on the feast day  of Christ the King according to the Traditional Latin Mass calendar.

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 That there is such a thing as distinctions and differences.

It has been a few years that I have been saying this...

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That reality is a thing.

Yes, but it depends... as Pope Francis would have us believe.
We have a doctrine, a de fide doctrne being changed in the Catholic Church. Officially the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus has been rejected and even traditionalists justify this error with their irrational logic and philosophical concepts of reality.

We cannot blame Hilary White this is the religious formation all of us have received, me included.
I have broken free.I am no more using the innovative logic which has come into the Church in a big way since 1949 -Boston.

-Lionel Andrades

http://whatisupwiththesynod.com/index.php/2016/11/19/thank-god-for-rigidity/