Sunday, March 5, 2017

Traditionalists violate the Principle of Non Contradiction on exclusive salvation and actually criticise Our Lady at Medugorje for this

Traditionalists assume there are people saved without the baptism of water in the Church who are known exceptions; practical exceptions to Jesus' teaching on all needing the baptism of water for salvation and that there is exclusive salvation in Jesus in only the Catholic.(John 3:5, Mark 16:16).They are irrational and contradict the Principle of Non Contradiction.How can we see or know people saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church.How an people who do  not exist in our reality be exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).? How can Vatican Council II contradict EENS( Feeneyite) when humanly speaking there cannot be exceptions mentioned in the Council-text? The traditionalists are against Medugorje because of alleged statements by Our Lady on salvation and other religions.
Double standards.
I personally asked Fr.Slavko Barbaric OFM the Spiritual Director of the visionaries if Our Lady said all religions are equal. He denied it. I asked him if Our Lady at Medugorje said that the holiest person in Medugorje was a Muslim. He denied it. He said that he did not know how these stories came about.

The pro-SSPX blog Rorate Caeili will not  affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus since the editor New Catholic is afraid the Jewish Left will block his blog.He criticizes Medugorje.He is unable to say that the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance in 2017 refer to invisible cases and so they are not exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Archbishop Lefebvre and the SSPX bishops were wrong all these years.

He supports the Traditional Latin Mass only when it is offered by the SSPX and Church approved sources.He will not support the TLM offered by Bishop Richard Williamson since he will be considered Anti-Semitic.He cannot affirm the Catholic faith on salvation based on Vatican Council II and the dogma EENS and he is criticizing Our Lady at Medugorje on the issue of salvation.
Michael Voris in spite of so many reports on line (which are still there) does not have the courage to say that there are no known cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance in 2017. So there was a mistake made in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 and Vatican Council II (LG 16, AG 7, LG 14 etc).But  Medugorje is a soft target for him. If CMTV  says there are no visible cases of the baptism of desire in 2017 they will come after him... He does not want to be blocked on Facebook etc.
With traditionalists and conservative Catholics, and the present Magisterium, not affirming the past ecclesiology of the Church, in harmony with Vatican Council II, Our Lady at Medugorje doctrinally is in step with the Church.
In the early days of the apparitions Our Lady asked one of the visionaries Marija, to read The Poem of the Man God by Maria Valtorta to understand her life as an infant and young girl.
The Franciscans proscribed this message or kept it in the Private Category.The Poem of the Man God should be read by Catholics. I would recommend it. Like the Diary of St.Faustina Kowalska it has the old ecclesiocentrism.It says outside the Church there is no salvation.
The Poem of the Man God would not be in harmony with the Franciscan and Vatican's understanding of salvation.It would also be out of step with Cushingite theology used by traditionalist and conservative Catholics(Rorate Caeili, LMS Chairman,FSSP, SSPX,Chris Ferrara and the Remnant Forum, Steve Skojac...)
There are some things which traditionalist and conservative Catholics are not willing to affirm in public even though it rational and are the truths of the Catholic Church.Probably it is the same with Our Lady at Medugorje. What is she was asked where is Mohammad today? 
This would be the end the messages. The Vatican would have closed it down as it has done so with other alleged apparitions.
Now Cardinal Muller,like the Yugoslav Commission and the Commission headed by Cardinal Ruini have not condemned Medugorje and are waiting for the apparitions to end before they can make a doctrinal announement.The Cushingite cardinals and bishops have decided to wait.They interpret Vatican Council II with an irrationality and no one objects.
-Lionel Andrades

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