Wednesday, June 7, 2017

Reports on Chris Ferrara holding the same heresy as Pope Francis : no denial from him

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Chris Ferrara repeats the same heresy as Pope Francis I reported on June 6,2017. 1 As expected there was no denial from him.He does not contradict Pope Francis on Vatican Council II being a rupture with Tradition. Since for both of them Lumen Gentium 16, for example, on invincible ignorance would refer to a visible person in 2017 saved without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church. This would be an example of salvation outside the Church and so the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus is theologically contradicted for both of them.
I have been saying the same thing for a few years and also sending him and others e-mails of my reports. There is no denial.
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It is like a facade, the great facade he and the other traditionalists maintain when they are in harmony with Pope Francis and the liberals in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.
The liberals like it. Chris Ferrara is saying like them that the Council is a break with the past, except that he rejects the Council and they do not.Neither of them are saying that Vatican Council II can be interpreted without the invisible-visible premise and the conclusion would be different. The Council would be in harmony with the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS, since there would be no exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II.
It would mean the liberals were wrong all these 50 years and now we can re-interpret the Council. This will be a big disappointment for the Masons and the Jesuits. Pope Francis may not accept the truth.We don't know yet.
So why does Chris Ferrara not admit that they were wrong all these years about Vatican Council II ? Father Gruner had it wrong.John Vennari had it wrong. Why does he not admit that Archbishop Lefebvre and the SSPX bishops were also wrong? Why does he not come out straight and admit that Vatican Council II is not a rupture with the the dogma EENS as it was known to the 16th century missionaries. So there is no development of the dogma EENS with Vatican Council II as Pope Benedict XVI wrongly said in March 2016?
I mentioned on June 5 that the Church itself has fallen into heresy including Pope Francis and Christopher Ferrara.They are not aware of an irrational premise in their reasoning which creates new doctrines and a new theology.2There was no denial from Chris Ferrara.

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The two popes are in heresy and they are imposing it upon the people. The popes from Pius XII to Francis have been in doctrinal heresy which is created with a new theology, based on an irrational philosophy.
Pope Benedict XVI confirmed this on March 2016 in daily Avvenire when he said that with Vatican Council II there was a development of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. (EENS). The dogma was no more like it was for the missionaries of the 16th century and this is accepted by the present two popes.He confirmed magisterial heresy created by the use of an irrational premise to elicit a non traditional conclusion, in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and the dogma EENS in particular.The same irrationality is used to interpret other magisterial documents and it is accepted by the whole Church.
Chris Ferrara could not contend that Pope Francis is in heresy since he did  not know what is the specific cause of the heresy, in salvation theology, when he wrote his book The Great Facade.He cannot know since he himself ,like Archbishop Lefebvre and the SSPX bishops and priests, uses the same irrational reasoning to create heretical conclusions which in general, is accepted in the whole Church.
For the two popes and Chris Ferrara the dogma EENS, which has been defined by three Church Councils and is a de fide teaching of the Church, is no more like it was for the magisterium of the 16th century.Effectively and doctrinally it has been changed.This is heresy. The magisterium has changed it and is now saying so in public. They have rejected EENS  with invisible baptism of desire for example, being a visible exception.So EENS as it was known for centuries is no more. This is heresy.
For the two popes, Chris Ferrara and the SSPX bishops the Nicene Creed has been changed to 'I believe in three or more baptisms, which replace the baptism of water and are examples of salvation outside the Church. They are the baptisms of desire, blood, seeds of the Word etc.'  This is the new understanding of the Nicene Creed.
For the two popes and Chris Ferrara,traditionalists, sedevacantists and liberals in general Vatican Council II can only be interpreted with irrational Cushingism.They have not and will not interpret Vatican Council II with rational and traditional Feeenyism, as did the missionaries in the 16th century.
This is all first class heresy in the hierarchy of truths of Pope John Paul II.This is heresy in the Church at large and the the heresy of the two popes and the Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF), Vatican.
I interpret the dogma EENS, the Nicene Creed and Vatican Council II with Feeneyite reasoning and theology.So I am in harmony with the 16th  century magisterium.There is no  rupture with Tradition for me. Pre and post Vatican Council II theology and doctrine are the same for me.-Lionel Andrades
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JUNE 6, 2017


Chris Ferrara is giving us fake news like the two pontiffshttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/06/chris-ferrara-is-giving-us-fake-news.html


JUNE 5, 2017


Two popes in heresy but then so is Chris Ferrara so he does not notice it

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/06/two-popes-in-heresy-but-then-so-is.html


JUNE 5, 2017

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When Chris Ferrara wrote The Great Facade he did not know Vatican Council II could be interpreted without the irrational premise and the conclusion would be different http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/06/when-chris-ferrara-wrote-great-facade.html

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