Tuesday, August 29, 2017

SSPX can correct the Wikipedia error in the interpretation of Vatican Council II related to canonical status for them

The Society of St.Pius X (SSPX ) must note that Pope Francis and Cardinal Ladaria are in manifest heresy for assuming that invisible  baptism of desire (BOD), baptism of blood(BOB)  and invincible ignorance(I.I) are visible exceptions of salvation outside the Church and so contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) according to Fr. Leonard Feeney. Similarly they are in manifest heresy for interpreting Vatican Council II with Cushingism i.e LG 16 etc refer to visible and known cases saved outside the Church, when in reality these cases would only be known to God. In this way Vatican Council II emerges as a rupture with EENS as it was interpreted by the missionaries in the 16th century. Vatican Council II can also be interpreted with Feeneyism(invisible people are not visible) and the Council will not be a rupture with EENS.But they will not do this. They choose the heretical version of the Council and EENS.

It is important to note that  Wikipedia and other Internet reports support the heresy of Pope Francis and Cardinal Ladaria by interpreting all magisterial documents with the irrational theology.
Once this error is corrected by the SSPX they can ask for canonical status.They can asking Pope Francis and Cardinal Ladaria to affirm Vatican Council II and EENS with Feeneyism, or do not make doctrine and theology an issue for the SSPX receiving canonical status.
Presently the SSPX also interprets Vatican Council II with Cushingism and so nothing can done about the Wikipedia reports.
I am the only Catholic who is interpreting all magisterial documents with rational Feeneyism. Even the communities of Fr. Leonard Feeney, the St.Benedict Centers interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingism. They do not state that the Council is Feeneyite when invisible cases are not interpreted as being visible.


Feeneyism: It is the old theology and philosophical reasoning which says there are no known exceptions past or present, to the dogmaextra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).There are no explicit cases to contradict the traditional interpretation of EENS.It is practical. There obviously are no known cases of the baptism of desire (BOD),baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) in 2017.So there are no practical exceptions to EENS.Neither was BOD,BOB and I.I an exception to Feeneyite EENS in 1949 when the Letter of the Holy Office was issued to the Archbishop of Boston. The cardinals made an objective mistake.Similarly mentioning BOD and I.I in Vatican Council II (AG 7,LG 14) relative to the traditional teaching on salvation was superfluous.

Cushingism: It is the new theology and philosophical reasoning.It assumes there are known exceptions, past and present, to the dogma EENS, on the need for all to formally enter the Church.It assumes that the baptism of desire etc are not hypothetical but objectively known.In principle, hypothetical cases are objective in the present times.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/07/palermo-catholics-tell-archbishop-that.html

 Propaganda from Wikipedia on extra ecclesiam nulla salus :

Papal teaching before the Second Vatican Council[edit]

Statements by Popes upholding the dogma that outside of the Church there is no salvation have been given above.(Lionel:There were Feeneyite citations with no BOD, BOB and I.I confusion. There were also citations in which BOD, BOB and I.I were inferred to be physically visible cases) Popes who have made such statements have also said that there are those who without visibly belonging to the Church are related to it and can be saved. Pope Pius IX spoke of them as "able to attain eternal life", and Pope Pius XII said that "they have a certain relationship with the Mystical Body of the Redeemer".(However non of these popes have said that these were physically visible and known people, saved outside the Church. They would not say this since any one who is saved would be in Heaven and known only to God. This is something obvious.)
In his 1863 encyclical letter to the bishops of Italy, Pope Pius IX wrote: "Well known is the Catholic teaching that no one can be saved outside the Catholic Church. Eternal salvation cannot be obtained by those who oppose the authority and statements of the same Church and are stubbornly separated from the unity of the Church and also from the successor of Peter, the Roman Pontiff". In the same letter, he said: "There are, of course, those who are struggling with invincible ignorance about our most holy religion. Sincerely observing the natural law and its precepts inscribed by God on all hearts and ready to obey God, they live honest lives and are able to attain eternal life by the efficacious virtue of divine light and grace since God who clearly beholds, searches, and knows the minds, souls, thoughts, and habits of all men, because of His great goodness and mercy, will by no means suffer anyone to be punished with eternal torment who has not the guilt of deliberate sin." He added: "God forbid that the children of the Catholic Church should even in any way be unfriendly to those who are not at all united to us by the same bonds of faith and love. On the contrary, let them be eager always to attend to their needs with all the kind services of Christian charity, whether they are poor or sick or suffering any other kind of visitation. First of all, let them rescue them from the darkness of the errors into which they have unhappily fallen and strive to guide them back to Catholic truth and to their most loving Mother who is ever holding out her maternal arms to receive them lovingly back into her fold. Thus, firmly founded in faith, hope, and charity and fruitful in every good work, they will gain eternal salvation."
Lionel: We have convered this passage before(in other blog posts). It does 
not state that invisible  people are visible exceptions to EENS or the 
hypothetical cases it refers to are actually known people.
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Pope Pius XII considered not unrelated to the Church "those who do not belong to the visible Body of the Catholic Church", saying that they are in a "state in which they cannot be sure of their salvation. For even though by an unconscious desire and longing they have a certain relationship with the Mystical Body of the Redeemer, they still remain deprived of those many heavenly gifts and helps which can only be enjoyed in the Catholic Church".
Lionel: So Pope Pius XII has not rejected the dogma EENS according to
 Fr. Leonard Feeney since hypothetical and invisible people cannot 
be exceptions to EENS.
It was under Pope Pius XII too that the Catholic Church rejected Feeneyism.
Lionel: It is here where we get the false conclusion based on the false premise.The writer assumes that BOD, BOB and I.I refer to visible instead of invisible people. He concludes that these are known examples of salvation outside the Church. So he has mixed up what is invisible as being visible and accepted the New Theology, with the false conclusion, that, there is salvation outside the Church.So Fr.Leonard Feeney was wrong according to this line of thinking supported by the Letter of the Holy Office 1949.

It was under Pope Pius XII too that the Catholic Church rejected Feeneyism.
Lionel: By assuming possibilities, unknown people, are real and known in real life that Feeneyism was rejected. The SSPX can correct this error.It is related to their interpretation of Vatican Council II and getting canonical status.

-Lionel Andrades





JUNE 13, 2014


Magisterium: it all depends on how you look at it!

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/06/magisterium-it-all-depends-on-how-you.html

JULY 22, 2016


Defacto, in real life, practically,BOD does not contradict the Popes on Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/07/defacto-in-real-life-practicallybod.html

 JANUARY 18, 2016

Pope Francis and Cardinal Muller interpret the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II with irrationality : manifest heresy

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/pope-francis-and-cardinal-muller_18.html


ANUARY 17, 2016


Pope Francis and Cardinal Muller interpret the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II with Cushingism : 'the Church' is in manifest heresy

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/pope-francis-and-cardinal-muller_17.html

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Cardinal Muller has changed doctrine, supports the development of heresy
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/10/cardinal-muller-has-changed-doctrine.html
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Cardinal Gerhard Muller like AP interprets Vatican Council II with the error from the Baltimore Catechism

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/10/cardinal-gerhard-muller-like-ap.html

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ARCHBISHOP GERHARD MULLER ASSUMES THAT THE DEAD WHO ARE SAVED ARE VISIBLE ON EARTH AND SO EVERY ONE DOES NOT NEED TO ENTER THE CHURCH : NCR interview 
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/10/archbishop-gerhard-muller-assumes-that.html#links
Cardinal Gerhard Muller's doctrinal error was placed on the Vatican website and found on Edward Pentin's webpage.The editors at the National Catholic Register approved it
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/01/cardinal-gerhard-mullers-doctrinal.html
JANUARY 13, 2015


Cardinal Gerhard Muller used a false premise and he is to evaluate Medugorje http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/06/cardinal-gerhard-muller-used-false.html
http://ingodscompany2.blogspot.it/2016/01/medjugorje-documental.html

Cardinal Muller has alleged apparitions like Medugorje : apparition theology for the SSPX and the Franciscans of the Immaculate http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/12/cardinal-muller-has-alleged-apparitions.html

MEDUGORJE PHENOMENON AT THE CDF OFFICE

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/11/medugorje-phenomenon-at-cdf-office.html

THERE CAN BE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND CARDINALS WHO USE THE IRRATIONAL ONE ARE TO JUDGE MEDUGORJE

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/12/there-can-be-two-interpretations-of.html

CARDINALS WHO HAVE CHANGED THE FAITH FOR POLITICAL REASONS ARE TO EVALUATE MEDUGORJE

MANELLI FAMILIES STOP THE COERCION : ITS ILLEGAL
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/01/manelli-families-stop-coercion-its.html

Manelli lawyers must clarify with Apostolic Commissioner Fr.Fidenzio Volpi

No acknowledgment from the Vatican Press Office to 12 questions :Franciscans of the Immaculate

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/07/no-acknowldgement-from-vatican-press.html



January 16, 2015
Catholics threatened by their bishop or the Vatican

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/01/catholics-threathened-by-their-bishop.html
Roberto de Mattei wants the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate( F.I) to be faithful to Tradition while he is not affirming the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS)

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/roberto-de-mattei-wants-franciscan.html

Doctrinal error within the SSPX too ?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/doctrinal-error-within-sspx-too.html

In this way we undo the damage done by Fr.Karl Rahner and others who did not make the explicit-implicit, visible-invisible distinction.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/in-this-way-we-undo-damage-done-by.html

Pope Pius XII, Cardinals Ottaviani, Cardinal Francesco Marchetti Selvaggiani and Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre were factually wrong

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/pope-pius-xii-cardinals.html


Toronto Catholic Witness uses same theology as Pope Francis and the liberal Curia http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/01/toronto-catholic-witness-uses-same.html




CDF would be telling a falsehood,if it continued to promote Cushingism http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/10/cdf-would-be-promoting-falsehoodif-it.html

CDF hiding the truth still
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/11/cdf-hiding-truth-still.html

Meeting needed between Ecclesia Dei/CDF, SSPX,CMRI and others: all agree that the baptism of desire is not an exception to extra ecclesiam nulla salus

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/08/meeting-needed-between-ecclesia-deicdf.html


AP repeats lie about Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/11/ap-repeats-lie-about-vatican-council-ii.html

The present Magisterium supports the political Left on doctrine and has also made a factual mistake http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/09/the-present-magisterium-supports.html

Immagine correlata

OATH AGAINST MODERNISM : MAGISTERIUM IS IN HERESY

 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/09/oath-against-modernism-magisterium-is.html

CDF could soon fault the SSPX for not accepting the Cushing interpretation of Vatican Council II http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/10/cdf-could-soon-fault-sspx-for-not.html

Vatican Council II is traditional: SSPX should ask Ecclesia Dei to accept the Council without the Richard Cushing Error
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/06/vatican-council-ii-is-traditional-sspx.html

Richard Cushing Confusion at the Vatican
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/06/richard-cushing-confusion-at-vatican.html

Pro SSPX supporters should protest at the CDF on their irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/06/pro-sspx-supporters-should-protest-at.html


Cardinal Luiz Ladaria S.J uses the false premise : here is the proof!


http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/06/archbishop-augustine-di-noia-was-using.html#linkCardinal Luiz Ladaria S.J Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith is still in heresy :visible to us baptism of desire and invincible ignorance contradicts a defined dogma http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/06/cardinal-luiz-ladaria-sj-secretary-of.html

THERE IS AMBIGUITY IN VATICAN COUNCIL II ONLY WITH THE FALSE PREMISE: THE COUNCIL IS TRADITIONAL OTHERWISE http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/06/there-is-ambiguity-in-vatican-council.html

Archbishop Di Noia's the Church is always right is becoming controversial: How can the Holy Spirit say that we can see the deceased saved?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/archbishop-di-noias-church-is-always.html#links
FANTASY THEOLOGY : PILTDOWN MAN THEOLOGY AT THE CDF
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/11/fantasy-theology-piltdown-man-theology.html#links
For nearly 20 years the Holy Office(CDF) and the Archbishop of Boston did not lift the excommunication of Fr.Leonard Feeney when the baptism of desire was never ever an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/10/for-nearly-20-years-holy-officecdf-and.html#links
Tuesday, April 10, 2012
HOLY FATHER ASSUMES THOSE SAVED IN INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE ARE KNOWN TO US: CONTRADICTS VATICAN COUNCIL I AND II
 http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/04/holy-father-assumes-those-saved-in.html

INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION OBJECTIVELY WRONG ON INVINCIBLE IGNORANCE http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/02/international-theological-commission.html#links   

IF THE CDF DOES NOTHING WHOM CAN WE APPEAL TO, POPE FRANCIS ?: PUBLIC ERRORS BY VATICAN OFFICIALS INCLUDING THE CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/05/if-cdf-does-nothing-whom-can-we-appeal.html

January 13, 2013
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/01/the-last-sesecret-doctrinal-talks-were.html#links

ITALIAN PRIEST CRITICIZES BAGNASCO FIASCO: THE BIBLE TEACHES THAT JEWS NEED TO CONVERT http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2009/10/italian-priest-criticizes-bagnasco.html
Implicit intention, invincible ignorance and a good conscience (LG 16) in Vatican Council II do not contradict extra ecclesiam nulla salus –John Martignoni


JOHN MARTIGNONI SAYS VATICAN COUNCIL II IS IN AGREEMENT WITH EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS AND THE SYLLABUS: WHEN WILL THE SSPX AND THE VATICAN CURIA ACKNOWLEDGE IT?


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