When I meet a non Catholic I know that he is on the path to Hell since the Catholic Church teaches this before and after Vatican Council II.But Una Voce Intermultiplices/ Internationalis are denying this post Vatican Council II Catholic faith.Since they are under the control of the two popes and its members careers and interests are being threathened by the political Left.Both the groups are politically correct and are teaching error.
They will not say that the Traditional Latin Mass can be offered knowing that the Catholic Church teaches that all non Catholics are oriented to Hell, with no known exceptions, unless they become members of the Church.
It is the Catholic Church today which teaches that all non Catholics are oriented to Hell unless they become members of the Church. This was the teaching at the Traditional Latin Mass when it was offered by Jesuit priests and missionaries in the 16th century.
'All' need 'faith and baptism' for ' salvation' states Ad Gentes 7.
For Una Voce Intermultiplices and Internationalis there are exceptions and this is a private view.
For them invisible cases of the baptism of desire (BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are visible exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to the magisterium in the 16th century.With this confusion over 'known and unknown people', Vatican Council II has to be interpreted as a rupture with Tradition and then rejected.
Una Voce will not interpret Vatican Council II without the invisible-visible confusion. For then the Council will be in harmony with the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS and they will be threathened by the political Left.Also without the intentional mix up between what is known and what is un-known both groups would be Feeneyite and would contradict Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.Since, invisible for us BOD, BOB and I.I would not be an explicit exception to the dogma EENS and so Una Voce could affirm EENS like Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston and the saints of the 16th century.
This would mean that Una Voce Internationalis would lose their recognition and privileges given to them by the Vatican. So they are maintaining the lie and deception.
In general every one needs 'faith and baptism' for salvation and there are no known exceptions, there are no practical exceptions, for example in 2017.
The text of Vatican Council II also does not state that there are exceptions.This has to be inferred by the reader. This is wrongly inferred by most Catholics.The text of Vatican Council II does not state that we must infer that LG 16, LG 8 LG 14, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22, AG 11, AG 7 etc refer to known and visible in the present times saved outside the Church.Common sense tells us that there cannot be known people who are saved outside the Church. Since they would be in Heaven and this would only be known to God.
When the two popes and all the cardinals suggest that Lumen Gentium 16 etc are exceptions to Feeneyite EENS it is a mistake. It is their personal wrong inference.This is the common wrong inference of the Una Voce members.
It is the Catholic Church in its magisterial documents ,interpreted without the false premise and conclusion, which states all need faith and baptism to avoid the fires of Hell(CCC 1257, 845,846, Vatican Council II, AG 7, LG 16, John 3:5, Mark 16:16, Mat.7:13 etc, Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 etc).So when I say that all non Catholics in 2017 need to formally enter the Church, with faith and baptism, I am affirming the traditional and post Vatican Council II teachings of the Catholic Church; according to magisterial documents interpreted without the false premise and conclusion.Una Voce could do the same.But this is the Catholic teaching of the Church rejected by the two popes and the Vatican.
It is important for Catholics to proclaim the faith, to do mission, knowing that all non Catholics (Protestants, Orthodox Christians, Pentecostals,Evangelicals, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, atheists and pagans) need to enter the Church for salvation.Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation.This was taught by Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston and the magisterium of the16th century.This was taught by the Jesuit missionaries in the Middle Ages.So it is only with the false inference that 'the Church', the popes and cardinals, can no more teach that all non Catholics need to enter the Church to avoid Hell.
For me the Church teaches that all non Catholics are on the way to Hell unless they become members of the Church.This is magisterial for me.-Lionel Andrades
It is the Catholic Church in its magisterial documents ,interpreted without the false premise and conclusion, which states all need faith and baptism to avoid the fires of Hell(CCC 1257, 845,846, Vatican Council II, AG 7, LG 16, John 3:5, Mark 16:16, Mat.7:13 etc, Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 etc).So when I say that all non Catholics in 2017 need to formally enter the Church, with faith and baptism, I am affirming the traditional and post Vatican Council II teachings of the Catholic Church; according to magisterial documents interpreted without the false premise and conclusion.Una Voce could do the same.But this is the Catholic teaching of the Church rejected by the two popes and the Vatican.
It is important for Catholics to proclaim the faith, to do mission, knowing that all non Catholics (Protestants, Orthodox Christians, Pentecostals,Evangelicals, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, Muslims, atheists and pagans) need to enter the Church for salvation.Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation.This was taught by Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston and the magisterium of the16th century.This was taught by the Jesuit missionaries in the Middle Ages.So it is only with the false inference that 'the Church', the popes and cardinals, can no more teach that all non Catholics need to enter the Church to avoid Hell.
For me the Church teaches that all non Catholics are on the way to Hell unless they become members of the Church.This is magisterial for me.-Lionel Andrades
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