Monday, February 26, 2018

Abp Guido Pozzo, Secretary of Ecclesia Dei,Vatican interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and so there is the hermeneutic of rupture. He wanted the SSPX to interpret the Council like him and then sign a Doctrinal Preamble.

When you read the text of Vatican Council II do not read the text as being for and against extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). This would mean you are using the false premise I mentioned in the last blog post.The orthodox texts are for EENS. The against texts are really hypothetical references to invisible people in the present times. So they cannot be against EENS.1
When you assume hypothetical cases are not hypothetical and exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church it is irrational. The text does not say this.However this is the common inference.

This creates a rupture with EENS as it was known in the past and it is rejection of the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church.
Even the traditionalists and sedevacantists are interpreting Vatican Council II schismatically.Cardinal Raymond Burke, Bishop Athansius Schneider,Chris Ferrara and Bishop Donald Sanborn use the false premise to make the Council a rupture with the past Magisterium.Then they blame Vatican Council II.

However even Archbishop Guido Pozzo, Secretary of Ecclesia Dei,Vatican also interprets Vatican Council II irrationally .So there is the hermeneutic of rupture. He wanted the SSPX to interpret the Council like him.They had to accept the non traditional conclusion and then sign a Doctrinal Preamble.
The SSPX is already interpreting the Council like Archbishop Pozzo but unlike him they reject the conclusion.
Neither of the two are mentioning that they can interpret the Council like me in which hypothetical cases would simply be considered hypothetical. Then there would be no text in the Council which would contradict the past ecclesiology of the Church, EENS and the Syllabus of Errors.

EXAMPLE  LUMEN GENTIUM 16,VATICAN COUNCIL II


16. Finally, those who have not yet received the Gospel are related in various ways to the people of God. (Hypothetical. Speculation) In the first place we must recall the people to whom the testament and the promises were given and from whom Christ was born according to the flesh.(125) On account of their fathers this people remains most dear to God, for God does not repent of the gifts He makes nor of the calls He issues. But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator.(Hypothetical) In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind. Nor is God far distant from those who in shadows and images seek the unknown God, for it is He who gives to all men life and breath and all things,(127) and as Saviour wills that all men be saved.(In potential salvation is open to all . In fact all need to enter the Church. Dejure( in principle) one can speculate. In fact, defacto all need faith and abaptism for salvation( Ad Gentes 7) Those also can attain to salvation who through no fault of their own do not know the Gospel of Christ or His Church, yet sincerely seek God and moved by grace strive by their deeds to do His will as it is known to them through the dictates of conscience.(Hypothetically yes .In theory it is a possibility. In reality we do not know any such person on earth) Nor does Divine Providence deny the helps necessary for salvation to those who, without blame on their part, have not yet arrived at an explicit knowledge of God and with His grace strive to live a good life.(Hypothetically O.K.This is said speculatively, in general with good will)  Whatever good or truth is found amongst them is looked upon by the Church as a preparation for the Gospel. (O.K. Accepted with good will. But we do not know any particular person saved as such so there is no link with EENS. This should be clear. ) She knows that it is given by Him who enlightens all men so that they may finally have life. But often men, deceived by the Evil One, have become vain in their reasonings and have exchanged the truth of God for a lie, serving the creature rather than the Creator.(129) Or some there are who, living and dying in this world without God, are exposed to final despair. Wherefore to promote the glory of God and procure the salvation of all of these, and mindful of the command of the Lord, "Preach the Gospel to every creature",(130) the Church fosters the missions with care and attention.

For Archbishop Guido Pozzo the passages in red are not hypothetical but are exceptions to the old ecclesiology and the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma  EENS. This is how Cardinal Ratzinger and the then Fr.Luiz Ladaria s.j expressed themselves in the International Theological Commission papers ( See Christianity and the World Religions on the right hand side label on this blog).
Now for me the passages in red refer to only hypothetical cases and un-known and invisible people in 2018.So they  cannot be visible examples of salvation outside the Church. They do not contradict, and never did in the past, the dogma EENS and the past ecclesiology of the Church upon which the Syllabus of Errors was based.
So the new ecumenism and the new ecclesiology of Archbishop Guido Pozzo emerges after mixing up what is invisible as being visible, what is implicit is interpreted as being explicit.
This violates the Principle of Non Contradiction. How can a person saved allegedly with the baptism of desire and without the baptism of water and who would now be in Heaven, also be on earth to be an exception to the dogma EENS? It doesn't make sense.
Yet this is the  theological gymnastics that Archbishop Pozzo and Augustine Di Noia have to do to interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with the past ecclesiology and the Syllabus of Errors. This is schism with the past popes and Councils and they are forcing this upon all Catholics.
-Lionel Andrades

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http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/when-you-read-text-of-vatican-council.html

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