So the charge of schism can now be made against the liberal Catholic faculty in Detroit .It can be made by Bishop Donald Sanborn against Dr.Robert Fastiggi.The tables have turned.

There can be a rational and irrational way to interpret Vatican Council II.We can read the text of Ad Gentes 7,Lumen Gentium 14 etc as being for and against the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).

The passages which are against extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) are interpreted  as being known people saved outside the Church.So there is salvation outside the Church and not no salvation outside the Church.

Now if the against passages are just accepted as being hypothetical( and they can only be hypothetical) then the 'against' passages do not contradict EENS.

Since hypothetical cases cannot be known people in real life who are saved outside the Church.So there is still no known salvation outside the Church for us human beings.

If someone is saved outside the Church it would be known only to God.So it cannot be said that there are, for example. 20 baptism of desire cases this year, or 10 invincible ignorance cases last year.

So the against EENS  passages  are 'neutral passages' which come from the error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. These 'neutral passages' when they are mistaken for being against EENS, create a rupture  with EENS and Tradition.It creates a break with the past ecclesiology of the Church.

It creates a schism  with the popes and Church Councils of the past.A schism is a terrible thing it is a sin said Prof.Robert Fastiggi, a professor of theology at the Sacred Heart Major Seminary, Detroit.He mentioned this in the debate with the sedevacantist Bishop Donald Sanborn.The subject was Ecclesiology  and it can be viewed on Youtube.

Now it is Dr.Robert Fastiggi  and Prof. Ralph Martin  at the Sacred Heart Major Seminary, Detroit who interpret the 'neutral passages' as being against EENS. So they are in schism with with past Magisterium.

They do not interpret EENS like the missionaries and magisterium of the 16th century, for example.Hypothetical cases mentioned in Vatican Council II, for them, are not hypothetical.They are concrete examples of salvation outside the Church. Possibilities in the past are real exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, for them, in 2018.

So they will teach and write that not every one needs to enter the Church in 2018 as members for salvation while the popes and Church Councils of the past said the very opposite.

So the charge of schism can be made against the liberal Catholic faculty in Detroit .It can be made by Bishop Donald Sanborn against Dr.Robert Fastiggi.The tables have turned.-Lionel Andrades




https://novusordowatch.org/vatican2-debate-sanborn-fastiggi/