Things are really bad. Since even after so many reports the traditionalists are not interpreting Vatican Council II in harmony with extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
Whatever is their view of Feeneyism according to the secular media and even if Pope Pius XII and Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre could not make a mistake for them, the reality still is that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc do not contradict Feeneyite EEMS. There are no practical exceptions.
LG 8 etc interpreted as just being hypothetical cases for us humans, possibilities known only to God are not exceptions to EENS( Feeneyite) in 2018.
There is no getting around this.
Vatican Council II without wrongly assuming invisible for us cases of LG 8 etc are visible is not an exception to EENS as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium of the 16th century.
You may agree or disagree with Fr.Leonard Feeney, you may interpret him however you want, but, Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS as it was known to St. Francis Xavier and the Jesuits in the Middle Ages.
So what do you do about this?
Roberto dei Mattei wants to do nothing.I have not met him personally but he does not respond to numerous reports on line on this subject.
Chris Ferrara is keeping quiet. A few years have passed.
Dr.John Rao organises a traditional conference annually while avoiding this issue.
Vatican Council II is not a rupture with EENS when hypothetical cases are interpreted as just being hypothetical. I call this interpretation of Vatican Council II, Feeneyism( It is not to be confused with the general interpretations of Feeneyism).
When Vatican Council II is interpreted with hypothetical cases being non hypothetical and referring to known non Catholics saved outside the Church in the present times, I call it Vatican Council II ( Cushingite).
So when interpreting Vatican Council II or the Catechisms, we can interpret the baptism of desire, the baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance with Feeneyism or Cushingism.There are two different conclusions.One is a continuity with Tradition and the other is a rupture.
We get two different results when references to BOD, BOB and I.I in the Catechism of Trent and Pius X, are interpreted with Feeneyism or Cushingism according to L.A.
It also changes the interpretation and understanding of the Nicene Creed.
So it is meaningless to say that Pope Pius XII 'condemned' Fr. Leonard Feeney.
The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 is Cushingite and the Council Fathers ( 1960-1965), Rahner, Ratzinger, Cushing...,were Cushingites at Vatican Council II.This is why this issue had become so complicated.
So if Fr. Leonard Feeney was correct or wrong for you, Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) is not a rupture with EENS ( Feeneyite).-Lionel Andrades
John Henry Weston affirms heresy and criticizes the Vatican when they do the same http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/06/john-henry-weston-affirms-heresy-and.html
So what do you do about this?Roberto dei Mattei wants to do nothing.I have not met him personally but he does not respond to numerous reports on line on this subject.
Chris Ferrara is keeping quiet. A few years have passed.
Dr.John Rao organises a traditional conference annually while avoiding this issue.
Vatican Council II is not a rupture with EENS when hypothetical cases are interpreted as just being hypothetical. I call this interpretation of Vatican Council II, Feeneyism( It is not to be confused with the general interpretations of Feeneyism).
When Vatican Council II is interpreted with hypothetical cases being non hypothetical and referring to known non Catholics saved outside the Church in the present times, I call it Vatican Council II ( Cushingite).
So when interpreting Vatican Council II or the Catechisms, we can interpret the baptism of desire, the baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance with Feeneyism or Cushingism.There are two different conclusions.One is a continuity with Tradition and the other is a rupture.
We get two different results when references to BOD, BOB and I.I in the Catechism of Trent and Pius X, are interpreted with Feeneyism or Cushingism according to L.A.
It also changes the interpretation and understanding of the Nicene Creed.
So it is meaningless to say that Pope Pius XII 'condemned' Fr. Leonard Feeney.
The Letter of the Holy Office 1949 is Cushingite and the Council Fathers ( 1960-1965), Rahner, Ratzinger, Cushing...,were Cushingites at Vatican Council II.This is why this issue had become so complicated.
So if Fr. Leonard Feeney was correct or wrong for you, Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) is not a rupture with EENS ( Feeneyite).-Lionel Andrades
JUNE 15, 2018
JUNE 15, 2018
CMTV will still not post the text of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus on its FAQ page http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/06/cmtv-will-still-not-post-text-of-dogma.html
Mattei's modernist media has compromised with the political Left in Italy
JUNE 15, 2018
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/06/matteis-modernist-media-has-compromised.html
JUNE 14, 2018
Apparition theology at traditionalist conferences
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/06/sun-miracle-at-medjugorje-october-31.html
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/06/fake-conferences.html
JUNE 13, 2018
Fake conferences
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/06/fake-conferences.html
JUNE 9, 2018
Lepanto Foundation conference this month in Rome is expected to be another non committal, prudent meeting among friends : the real problem and its solution is too sensitive for them to discuss and proclaim
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/06/lepanto-foundation-conference-his-month.html
Liberals cannot criticize Cardinal Raymond Burke since he accepts Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite),in harmony with EENS ( Feeneyite),the Syllabus of Errors,an ecumenism and the Social Reign of Christ the King : traditionalists at conf. next month support the New Theology
MAY 27, 2018
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/05/liberals-cannot-accuse-cardinal-raymond.html
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