FEBRUARY 12, 2018
Pope Pius XII, Pope Benedict and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria were wrong and Fr.Leonard Feeney was correct : apology from CDF long over due
The popes since Pius XII made a factual error and this error is used to interpret Vatican Council II.Without this error Vatican Council II is in harmony with the strict interpretation of the dogmaextra ecclesiam nulla salus( EENS ), which Catholics are not aware of or do not want to proclaim.
Pope Pius XII did not defend Fr.Leonard Feeney.This was about the time of the creation of the State of Israel.He did not announce that the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood)BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) referred to theoretical and hypothetical cases only and they could not be known examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church.
However in March 2016(Avvenire) Pope Benedict XVI informed all that there is known salvation outside the Church and questioned the need for mission.So like Cardinal Richard Cushing, the former liberal Archbishop of Boston, Pope Benedict was saying that there was salvation outside the Church , for him.
He was honest to call it 'a development' and mentiioned that this development was not there in the 16th century.He refused to affirm EENS and Vatican Council II without this innovation.
Also in 1997 in Christianity and the World Religions(International Theological Commission, Vatican) he inferred that there was known salvation outside the Church.So he concluded, with Fr. Luiz Ladaria s.j, the then President of ITC and now Cardinal-Prefect of the CDF, that Fr.Leonard Feeney was wrong and Pope Pius XII was correct.
66. In his encyclical Mystici Corporis, Pius XII addresses the question, How are those who attain salvation outside visible communion with the Church related to her? He says that they are oriented to the mystical body of Christ by a yearning and desire of which they are not aware (DS 3821).( Lionel: And this is an explicit exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus for Ratzinger and Ladaria ) -Christianity and the World Religions 2007
66. The opposition of the American Jesuit Leonard Feeney, who insisted on the exclusivist interpretation of the expression extra ecclesiam nulla solus, afforded the occasion for the letter of the Holy Office, dated 8 August ,1949, to the archbishop of Boston, which rejected Feeney s interpretation and clarified the teaching of Pius XII.
-Christianity and the World Religions 2007
International Theological Commission (ITC)
10. Exclusivist ecclesiocentrism—the fruit of a specific theological system or of a mistaken understanding of the phrase extra ecclesiam nulla salus—is no longer defended by Catholic theologians after the clear statements of Pius XII and Vatican Council II on the possibility of salvation for those who do not belong visibly to the Church (cf, e.g., LG 16; GS 22).-International Theological Commission, Christianity and the World Religions 1997.
International Theological Commission (ITC)
62. It is not possible to develop a theology of the religions without taking into account the universal salvific mission of the Church, attested to by Holy Scripture and by the tradition of faith of the Church. A theological evaluation of the religions was impeded over a long time because of the principle extra ecclesiam nulla salus, understood in an exclusivist sense.(Lionel: Now it is not!) With the doctrine about the Church as the universal sacrament of salvation or the sacrament of the kingdom of God, theology seeks to respond to the new way of posing the problem. This teaching, which was also welcomed by Vatican Council II (Lionel: Interpreted with the false premise) , is linked to the sacramental vision of the Church in the New Testament.-Christianity and the World Religions (2007. ITC).International Theological Commission (ITC)
66. In his encyclical Mystici Corporis, Pius XII addresses the question, How are those who attain salvation outside visible communion with the Church related to her? He says that they are oriented to the mystical body of Christ by a yearning and desire of which they are not aware (DS 3821).( Lionel: And this is an explicit exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus for Ratzinger and Ladaria ) -Christianity and the World Religions 2007
66. The opposition of the American Jesuit Leonard Feeney, who insisted on the exclusivist interpretation of the expression extra ecclesiam nulla solus, afforded the occasion for the letter of the Holy Office, dated 8 August ,1949, to the archbishop of Boston, which rejected Feeney s interpretation and clarified the teaching of Pius XII.
-Christianity and the World Religions 2007
We now know that invisible cases of BOD, BOB and I.I never ever were visible,objective exceptions to the dogma EENS as it was known in the 16th century or to Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston.
So the popes Pius XII and Benedict XVI were wrong and Fr. Leonard Feeney was correct. They were irrational, non traditional and heretical while Fr. Leonard Feeney was repeating Catholic orthodoxy.
So the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF) today needs to apologize for the excommunication of Fr.Leonard Feeney and admit that doctrinally the Magisterium was wrong and the priest from Boston was correct.
This also has a doctrinal bearing today on how the SSPX in particular and Catholics in general interpret Vatican Council II and EENS.
The Council is not a rupture with the traditional interpretation of EENS if the Pius XII, Pope Benedict and Cardinal Ladaria irrationality is avoided.
-Lionel Andrades
Former Secretary of the International Theological Commission holds that those saved with the baptism of desire and in invincible ignorance are known to us and so an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus
NO NEED FOR ‘SECRET TALKS’ ANYMORE: WE KNOW THE HERETICAL POSITION OF THE VATICAN NEGOTIATORS
BISHOP CHARLES MOREROD O.P IN BLATANT HERESY IS TO SPEAK BEFORE THE POPE ON ANGLICAN RELATIONS
VATICAN'S INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION MAKES AN ERROR IN ITS POSITION PAPER CHRISTIANITY AND THE WORLD RELIGIONS
INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION USES PREMISE THAT IS FACTUALLY INCORRECT : LIMBO
The International Theological Commission's position paper Christianity and the World Religions 1997 has an objective factual error and is approved by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger : invincible ignorance is not an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus
INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION ASSUMES ‘SEEDS OF THE WORD’ (VATICAN COUNCIL II ) IN OTHER RELIGIONS ARE KNOWN TO US AND THIS IS AN EXPLICIT EXCEPTION TO THE DOGMA EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS
VATICAN'S INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION MAKES AN ERROR IN ITS POSITION PAPER CHRISTIANITY AND THE WORLD RELIGIONS
VATICAN COUNCIL II(Feeneyite) REJECTS THE THEOLOGY OF RELIGIONS
Baptism-‘necessity of means or precept’-you wouldn’t know the difference, so why mention it ?
SSPX WEBSITE: ' I believe in three baptisms for the forgiveness of sins’ ?
Bishop Fellay, Fr.Schmidberger, FSSP, Joseph Fenton seem unaware that the baptism of desire is not an explicit exception to the dogma
Traditionalists not welcome in Catholic churches: they first have to accept the doctrine of the dead-saved are physially visible to us and then adapt this new doctrine to Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/02/traditionalists-not-welcome-in-catholic.html#links________________________________________
International Theological Commission (ITC)
58. In the face of new problems and situations and of an exclusive interpretation of the adage: “salus extra ecclesiam non est”,[88] the magisterium, in recent times, has articulated a more nuanced understanding as to the manner in which a saving relationship with the Church can be realized. The Allocution of Pope Pius IX, Singulari Quadam (1854) clearly states the issues involved: “It must, of course, be held as a matter of faith that outside the apostolic Roman Church no one can be saved, that the Church is the only ark of salvation, and that whoever does not enter it, will perish in the flood. On the other hand, it must likewise be held as certain that those who live in ignorance of the true religion, if such ignorance be invincible, are not subject to any guilt in this matter before the eyes of the Lord”-The Hope of Salvation for Infants who die without being baptized(2007. International Theological Commission) Fr.Luiz Ladaria S.j was the Secretary General of the ITC in 2007.He is now the Prefect of the CDF. http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_cti_index-doc-pubbl_en.html
International Theological Commission
59. The Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston (1949) offers further specifications. “To gain eternal salvation, it is not always required that a person be incorporated in reality (reapse) as a member of the Church, but it is necessary that one belong to it at least in desire and longing (voto et desiderio). It is not always necessary that this desire be explicit as it is with catechumens.The Hope of Salvation for Infants Who Die Without Being Baptized
AUGUST 26, 2012
International Theological Commission papers are full of ‘non-sense’ since we don’t know anyone saved with the baptism of desire: Priests who protest against the ITC could be suspended
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2012/08/international-theological-commission.html
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