Monday, January 14, 2019

Archbishop Morandi's developed version of extra ecclesiam nulla salus is based on deceptive reasoning

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Please be informed that the Congregation will send a copy of this letter to Bishop Libasci. Furthermore, this letter officially closes the discussion on this matter. The Congregation would like to invite you to pray for the assistance of the Holy Spirit and to seek competent theological counsel, so as to arrive at an understanding of the developed teaching of the Church, and how her teaching is not contradictory.
 With cordial regards, I am,
 Sincerely yours in Christ,
Monsignor Giacomo Morandi
 Under-Secretary
https://www.catholicnh.org/assets/Documents/About/FAQ/Ltr-CDF-SBC.pdf



seek competent theological counsel, so as to arrive at an understanding of the developed teaching of the Church, and how her teaching is not contradictory.


Lionel:
By developed theological understanding of extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) he means  :-
1.Accept that personally known cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) as being objective examples of salvation outside the Church and so exceptions to the strict interpretation of EENS. There would have to be literally known cases for them to be exceptions. Non Catholics who do not exist in our reality, for example in 2019, cannot be known exceptions to traditional EENS.However this is the reasoning at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF).
2.Accept that personally visible and known cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are objective examples of salvation outside the Church and so they contradict EENS, the past exclusivist ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return. But who are these people and what are their names? He will say he does not any know any one personally.
So this is Archbishop Giacomo Morandi's theological concept of a developed understanding of EENS.

For Archbishop Morandi BOD, BOB and I.I and LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc are explicit, objective and personally known cases. So they are exceptions to EENS. They contradict the teaching on exclusive salvation and there being only  Catholics in Heaven.
For Brother Andre Marie  BOD,BOB and I.I and LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc are only possibilities. A possibility is theoretical and speculative. It is not a concrete person in the present times (2019).So BOD, BOB and I.I are LG 8 etc are not exceptions to EENS. They are not a development. There cannot be a nuanced version of EENS based on personally unknown cases.
This is the point Archbishop Morandi does not understand. Practically there cannot be an exception to EENS since a person who is saved would have to be present on earth to be an exception.So there is nothing in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, Vatican Council II or Dominus Iesus which would contradict the strict interpretation of EENS.They can only refer to hypothetical and theoretical cases. So they are not relevant to EENS as exceptions.
Since Brother Andre Marie has not accepted the irrational interpretation of BOD,BOB and I.I and Vatican Council II(LG 8 etc) a Decree of Precepts-Prohibition has been issued. The SBC is not to legally claim that they are Catholics according to the CDF and the Diocese of Manchester.
The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has used deception to present a theologically 'developed' understanding of EENS.This is innovation based upon a falsehood.
What was the point in citing the Catechism of the Catholic Church? The references are all theoretical and hpothetical.
With hypothetical cases being presented as objective non Catholics saved outside the Church, there is a rupture with EENS as it was known to the Magisterium and missionaries in the 16th century. It is only with this ruse that there can be a developed version of EENS.
Now all Catholics, to be in good standing with the CDF have to use this 'developed' version of EENS.It is a rupture with the popes and saints of the past.It contradicts St. Francis Assisi, St. Bonaventure, St. Catherine of Siena and numerous other saints on EENS. None of them would be Catholic for the present CDF.
-Lionel Andrades




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