Wednesday, February 13, 2019

Minim Fathers, at the Basilica of Sant Andrea delle Fratte, Rome are not teaching the strict interpretation of salvation (EENS) according to the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1994)

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 The religious congregation of St Francis of Paula, the Minim Fathers, at the Basilica of Sant Andrea delle Fratte, Rome  are not teaching the strict interpretation of salvation (EENS) according to the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1994) issued by Pope John Paul II. 

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The Catechism of the Catholic Church(CCC 846)  say all need faith and baptism for salvation, all need to be members of the Catholic Church to avoid Hell. However this is  not being taught at  Catechism classes.

CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

 

 "Outside the Church there is no salvation"
846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.
847This affirmation is not aimed at those who, through no fault of their own, do not know Christ and his Church:
Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.
848 "Although in ways known to himself God can lead those who, through no fault of their own, are ignorant of the Gospel, to that faith without which it is impossible to please him, the Church still has the obligation and also the sacred right to evangelize all men."
-Catechism of the Catholic Church 846-848

The passages in red refer to hypothetical cases, theoretical possibilities and not personally known non Catholics saved outside the Church in the present times(2019).

The passage in blue agrees with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) which says all need to be members of the Catholic Church, for salvation, all need faith and baptism to avoid the fires of Hell.

The passage in blue is the norm for salvation in the Catholic Church, it is the rule on how to go to Heaven, for all people,  as taught to the Church over the centuries, by the Holy Spirit.
 

For there to be an exception there would have to be a person saved outside the Church who is known and physically visible. An invisible person who does not exist in our reality cannot be an objective exception to all needing to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation.

So the passages in red are hypothetical only,always. They can only be hypothetical.1
 
During Catechism, the Minim Fathers interpret the passage in red as being an exception to the passage in blue.This is irrational. 
The Catechism of the Catholic Church is in harmony with the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS), the past exclusive ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.
It is in harmony with Vatican Council II interpreted with Feeneyism instead of irrational Cushingism.
 
The Minim Fathers need to tell young Catholics, and also their seminarians, that all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation and there are no known exceptions.
 
They need to tell young Catholics that outside the Catholic Church there is no known salvation.Those who die outside the Church are on the way to Hell.
This has been the teaching of the Church for centuries, based on Scripture and Tradition according to Vatican Council II (AG 7).We cannot separate Jesus from membership in the Catholic Church, for salvation( to avoid Hell).
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At the basilica of St. Andrea delle Fratte, at the Altar of the Miracle, Alphonse RatIsbonne saw Our Lady. She showed him the beauty of the Catholic Church and its importance for the salvation of all people. 
He became a Catholic priest and founded two missionary congregations.
-Lionel Andrades

 

 

 

 

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January 26, 2019


The red is not an exception to the blue, the red does not contradict the blue : Catechism of the Catholic Church 846-848   https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-red-is-not-exception-to-blue-red.html

 

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January 22, 2019





Catechism of the Catholic Church (n.846) affirms the strict and traditional interpretation of EENS defined by three Church Councils in the Extraordinary Magisterium 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/catechism-of-catholic-church-n846.html

 

January 18, 2019





Outside the Church there is no salvation in the Catechism( N.846) affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus 

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/outside-church-there-is-no-salvation-in.html 

 

January 16, 2019 

Catechism of the Catholic Church and Dominus Iesus 'constitutive of Catholic teaching ' do not contradict the strict interpretation of EENS : the CDF made an objective error 

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/catechism-of-catholic-church-and.html 

 

January 19, 2019

Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus : CDF, Diocese of Manchester irrational and heretical 

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/vatican-council-ii-and-catechism-of.html 

 

January 23, 2019





The rational approach, the only approach, is that CCC 846 affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS and there are no practical exceptions mentioned in CCC 846 or the rest of the Catechism

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-rational-approach-only-approach-is.html

 

January 12, 2019

There are only Catholics in Heaven according to Vatican Council II (Ad Gentes 7) and they are there with faith and baptism 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/there-are-only-catholics-in-heaven.html

    

 

January 15, 2019

The Diocese of Manchester's Decree-Precepts-St.Benedict Center, issued by the Episcopal Vicar for Canonical Affairs is based on false reasoning 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-diocese-of-manchesters-decree.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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