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I know of no literal cases(Period.You
know of no literal cases and neither do I and neither does any one else
in the Church today or at the time of St.Emerentiana) other than what the Church proposes, such as
St Emerentiana, who the Church says died as a catechumen like many early
martyrs.(1. No one in the Church
could have seen her in Heaven without the baptism of water 2. A saint in
the past cannot be an exception to the dogma EENS today(2019) 3. We do
not know of a St. Emerentiana today). This is not a practical exception to EENS(Agreed. It never was a practical exception to EENS) and it is not
hypothetical( with reference to EENS it is hypothetical and not a concrete exception in 2019). You are imposing your erroneous belief that the baptismal
character is necessary for salvation, but can point to no Church
teaching saying so. (Please do not
use the phrase baptismal charachter if you cannot explain it or identify
its source. Refer to simply baptism and please qualify when you mean the
baptism of water or the baptism of desire). (The necessity of the
baptism of water is a de fide teaching of the Church and not just my
belief. I have quoted the two Catechisms which state that the baptism of
water is necessary for salvation. There would be other Catechisms
saying the same thing.
However
the bottom line still is that you cannot name any literal person saved
outside the Church during your life time and it is the same with the
SSPX supporters whom you know. They also do not personally know any particular
person who has been saved outside the Church. Then you also affirm the
dogma EENS and the Athanasius Creed. So you are saying the same thing
as Fr. Leonard Feeney and the popes and martyrs before Pius XII. You
are a Feeneyite.A 'closet' Feeneyite?
-Lionel Andrades
-Lionel Andrades
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