SEPTEMBER 10, 2018
So now we can interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with the 'strict interpretation' of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and without the hermeneutic of rupture. This is the Lionel Andrades model.
So now we can interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with the 'strict interpretation' of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and without the hermeneutic of rupture. This is the Lionel Andrades model.1
So now there is the Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II in which Lumen Gentium 8 is not an exception to EENS and there is the Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj common version.For Cardinal Ladaria, Prefect of the Congregation for Doctrine and Faith(CDF), at the Placuet Deo Press Conference, LG 8 was an exception to EENS.
So there is the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II and that of Pope Benedict ( March 1,2016, Avvenire).
There is the Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II in harmony with EENS according to the missionaries in the 16th century and there is that of the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX), the FSSP and the Instute of Christ the King and the rest of the traditionalists and sedevacantists.For all of them Vatican Council II (LG 8 etc) is a rupture with Tradition( EENS, Syllabus etc).
There is the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II for which he was banned twice by the University Pontificial Regina Apostolorum(UPRA), Rome, twice, even after his matriculation was granted to study there.
The priests and lay professors at UPRA continue to interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS, since this is the political Left requirement for the Vatican.
One of the priest-professors of philosophy at UPRA affirmed the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS and told me in his office that this was the teaching of the Catholic Church( Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441) and this was his belief irrespective of what positions the other professors at UPRA held.
So after I posted what he said on this blog I e-mailed Fr. Michael Ryan, former Dean of Philosophy and Fr( ex) Thomas Williams former Dean of Theology at UPRA and asked them if I could quote them supporting their colleague on EENS.They did not respond.
Later the priest-professor who originally affirmed EENS changed his position and tried to discourage me.
The second time a few years later, when I was not allowed to complete my final semester in Philosophy ( after the university office mistakenly granted me my matriculation number and completed all the formalities), the Italian Registrar was very sorry about the decision of the professors. He said that at UPRA they do not reject any student.This was the first time it has ever happened.He was not happy with the decision.I was not even allowed to enter the university premises.
This was discrimination based on religion while Fr.Michael Ryan l.c and Fr.(ex) Thomas Williams would not affirm a Catholic dogma in harmony with Vatican Council II and they still considered themselves Catholics teaching Catholic theology and doctrine.
It was the same story at the Legion of Christ's seminary, Maria Mater Ecclesia, Rome.
We can interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with the 'strict interpretation' of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and without the hermeneutic of rupture. This is the L.A model but it will not be acceptable at the Legion of Christ universities in Rome.-Lionel Andrades
So now there is the Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II in which Lumen Gentium 8 is not an exception to EENS and there is the Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj common version.For Cardinal Ladaria, Prefect of the Congregation for Doctrine and Faith(CDF), at the Placuet Deo Press Conference, LG 8 was an exception to EENS.
So there is the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II and that of Pope Benedict ( March 1,2016, Avvenire).
There is the Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II in harmony with EENS according to the missionaries in the 16th century and there is that of the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX), the FSSP and the Instute of Christ the King and the rest of the traditionalists and sedevacantists.For all of them Vatican Council II (LG 8 etc) is a rupture with Tradition( EENS, Syllabus etc).
There is the Lionel Andrades interpretation of Vatican Council II for which he was banned twice by the University Pontificial Regina Apostolorum(UPRA), Rome, twice, even after his matriculation was granted to study there.
The priests and lay professors at UPRA continue to interpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with EENS, since this is the political Left requirement for the Vatican.
One of the priest-professors of philosophy at UPRA affirmed the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS and told me in his office that this was the teaching of the Catholic Church( Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441) and this was his belief irrespective of what positions the other professors at UPRA held.
So after I posted what he said on this blog I e-mailed Fr. Michael Ryan, former Dean of Philosophy and Fr( ex) Thomas Williams former Dean of Theology at UPRA and asked them if I could quote them supporting their colleague on EENS.They did not respond.
Later the priest-professor who originally affirmed EENS changed his position and tried to discourage me.The second time a few years later, when I was not allowed to complete my final semester in Philosophy ( after the university office mistakenly granted me my matriculation number and completed all the formalities), the Italian Registrar was very sorry about the decision of the professors. He said that at UPRA they do not reject any student.This was the first time it has ever happened.He was not happy with the decision.I was not even allowed to enter the university premises.
This was discrimination based on religion while Fr.Michael Ryan l.c and Fr.(ex) Thomas Williams would not affirm a Catholic dogma in harmony with Vatican Council II and they still considered themselves Catholics teaching Catholic theology and doctrine.
It was the same story at the Legion of Christ's seminary, Maria Mater Ecclesia, Rome.
We can interpret Vatican Council II in harmony with the 'strict interpretation' of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and without the hermeneutic of rupture. This is the L.A model but it will not be acceptable at the Legion of Christ universities in Rome.-Lionel Andrades
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I do not like to mention my name in this way but it helps to make the issue concrete and it avoids ambiguity.I write this in all humility and knowing that I am like a worm before God and that writing all this would not be possible without supernatural help.
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/so-now-we-can-interpret-vatican-council.html
SEPTEMBER 3, 2018
Chris Ferrara and Roberto Mattei like the other traditionalists accepted the heresy in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which creates a rupture with the Catechism of Pope Pius X and changes the interpretation of Vatican Council II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/09/chris-ferrara-and-roberto-mattei-like.html
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