Yves Congar, Karl Rahner, Cardinal Richard Cushing and Pope Benedict made an objective mistake at Vatican Council II. This would be enough for a Catholic to reject the Council. At Vatican Council II they mistook unknown and invisible cases of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance, as being known and physically visible examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church. They had mistaken invisible people on earth, as being practical exceptions to exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. They then referenced this mistake in Vatican Council II. This mistake from the Letter of the Holy Office 1949, was referenced in Vatican Council II(Lumen Gentium 16).
Then in principle they assumed subjective and unknown cases were objective and visible.People saved and now in Heaven and invisible on earth were considered practial exceptions to Tradition(EENS etc).
So they mentioned LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc as being relevant to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, as exceptions. The Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors was made obsolete.
They (LG 8 etc) were all supposed to be exceptions to the norm for the Council Fathers.The norm for salvation over the centuries was faith and baptism in the Catholic Church with no known exceptions. The norm was exclusive salvation in Jesus' Mystical Body, the Catholic Church.Now the norm has alleged exceptions for the two popes.
Inspite of this error we should not reject Vatican Council II.Since re-interpreting LG 8, LG 14, LG16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, rationally we are back to the norm.We go back to Tradition and exclusive-salvation documents.
The irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II(the political one) is still official.It is not the rational interpretaion of the Council,which is still possible .The rational interpretation produces a traditional conclusion.The present two popes, like Pope Paul VI, are choosing the irrational premise, inference and non traditional conclusion.-Lionel Andrades
MAY 27, 2021
What I believe and proclaim is what the Catholic Church has always taught and still teaches
What I believe and proclaim is what the Catholic Church has always taught and still teaches .Nothing new.No innovation.The Church has always proclaimed Jesus and the necessity of the Catholic Church for salvation.Exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church.(John 3:5, Mark 16:16,Evangelii Nuntiandi of Pope Paul VI, Dominus Iesus of Pope John Paul II,CDF Notification on Fr. Jacques Dupuis sj(2001), Catechism of the Catholic Church(n.845,846,1257 etc),Vatican Council II( Ad Gentes 7/Lumen Gentium 14),Catechism of Pope Pius X, Catechism of the Council of Trent, Athanasius Creed, Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441 on extra ecclesiam nulla salus...).We do not separate Jesus from membership in the Catholic Church, for salvation.Salvation is open for all in potential, but to receive this salvation, all need faith and baptism (AG 7) in the Catholic Church. -Lionel Andrades
MAY 20, 2021
Pope Paul VI also used the false premise to interpret Vatican Council II and so is not Magisterial on the Council. : Massimo Faggioli still interprets Vatican Council II with a fake premise.This is unethical
Massimo Faggioli is still writing reports for the media in which he interprets Vatican Council II with a fakse premise.This is unethical. A professor of theology at an American university, he cannot reconcile himself with the truth.Like Pope Francis he interprets Vatican Council II with the false premise, inference and non traditional conclusion.
He cites Pope Paul VI who also used the false premise to interpret Vatican Council II. He had a choice. So Pope Paul VI 's interpretation of Vatican Council II is not Magisterial. It has an objective error.
That error can be corrected by Pope Francis and Pope Benedict. They can choose to interpret the Council with the rational premise, inference and conclusion. There will then be no rupture with Tradition. - Lionel Andrades
Whose synodality? Social alliances and institutional models in global Catholicism
LOOKING AT THE DRIVING FORCES OF SYNODALITY FROM ONE CONTINENT TO ANOTHER
https://www.ncronline.org/news/opinion/whose-synodality-social-alliances-and-institutional-models-global-catholicism
INTERNATIONAL THEOLOGICAL COMMISSION
SYNODALITY IN THE LIFE AND MISSION OF THE CHURCH
A new threshold in the wake of Vatican II
8. The fruits of the renewal promised by Vatican II in its promotion of ecclesial communion, episcopal collegiality and thinking and acting ‘synodally’ have been rich and precious. There is, however, still a long way to go in the direction mapped out by the Council[13]. In fact, today the drive to find an appropriate form for a synodal Church – although it is widely shared and has been put into practice in positive ways – seems to be in need of clear theological principles and decisive pastoral orientations.
9. Hence the new threshold that Pope Francis invites us to cross. In the wake of Vatican II, following in his predecessors footsteps, he insists that synodality describes the shape of the Church that emerges from the Gospel of Jesus, which is called to become incarnate today in history, in creative fidelity to Tradition.
In conformity with the teaching of Lumen Gentium, Pope Francis remarks in particular that synodality "offers us the most appropriate framework for understanding the hierarchical ministry itself”[14] and that, based on the doctrine of the sensus fidei fidelium[15], all members of the Church are agents of evangelisation[16]. Consequently making a synodal Church a reality is an indispensable precondition for a new missionary energy that will involve the entire People of God.
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_cti_20180302_sinodalita_en.html
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MAY 20, 2021
Confirmation class in Rome based on Vatican Council II interpreted with the fake premise is approved by Cardinal Tobin : St. Patricks church for the American community
The Vigil Mass on Saturday May 15,2021 was cancelled at the St. Patricks church for the American community in Rome, since there was the celebration of the Sacrament of Confirmation with students of the St. Patick's Religious Education program.All the students, like their teachers and the seminarians and deacons from the North American College, Rome, interpret Vatican Council II with the fake premise to reject Catholic Tradition. It is official.The church is managed by the Paulist Fathers.
The minimum age for First Communion is 8 years old and the Third Grade (by the first day of class - American system) and for Confirmation it is 14 years old and the Ninth Grade (by the first day of class). We will also be increasing the homework for the weeks in between the classes. The Confirmation class (age 14+) contributes 12 hours of community service as part of their classroom requirement.
The students like their teachers t have to reject the Athanasius Creed and the Catechism of the Council of Trent on exclusive salvation.Since LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are interpreted irrationally. They are interpreted as being as practical examples of salvation in the present times (1965-2021).In other words invisible people are visible. This is irrational but this is the norm also at the Lay Center at the Foyer Unitas, Rome which assists the church.
On the Board of Directors of the Lay Center are Cardinal Joseph W. Tobin and Dr. Donna Orsuto – President, ex-officio.
She has been teaching the political interpretation of Vatican Council II,with the fake premise, inference and non traditional conclusion, at the Pontifical Gregorian University Rome.-Lionel Andrades
http://www.laycentre.org/schede-8-board_directors
https://paulist.org/
Fake premise
Fake premise
OCTOBER 4, 2017
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