The SSPX have to admit that they have made a mistake in the interpretation of the Catechism of Pope Pius X and the Syllabus of Errors. The same mistake they made in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

 

Being saved in invincible ignorance is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) for Archbishop Lefebvre and the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX).

The Syllabus of Errors affirms EENS.

The Syllabus of Errors also affirms an ecumenism of return.

The Syllabus of Errors also affirms the past exlusivist ecclesiology upon which was based the proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King.

So when invincible ignorance is assumed to be known-people saved outside the Church it would be an exception to the Syllabus of Errors on EENS.

So the Catechism of Pope Pius X would contradict the Syllabus of Errors for Archbishop Lefebvre.

The Catechism of Pope Pius X would also contradict itself for Archbishop Lefebvre. 

Since this Catechism says all need to be members of the Church for salvation. It does not state that invincible ignorance is an exception to all needing to be members of the Church.But this is how Archbishop Lefebvre and the present SSPX and liberal Cushingites would interpret it.

For the SSPX in the Catechism of the Catholic Church n.1257( The Necessity of Baptism) would also contradict itself. Since it says the Church knows of no means to eternal beatiude other than the baptism of water and also says God is not limited to the Sacraments.

So the SSPX have to admit that they have made a mistake in the interpretation of the Catechism of Pope Pius X and the Syllabus of Errors. The same mistake they made in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus.-Lionel Andrades

OCTOBER 17, 2021

Wikipedia has no concept of the Rational and False Premise : Feeneyism

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/10/wikipedia-has-no-concept-of-rational.html

NOVEMBER 11, 2019

 

The Oxford University Press has produced many books on Vatican Council II based upon a false premise. A deceptive rupture is created with Catholic Tradition     https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/the-oxford-university-press-has.html

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66. In his encyclical Mystici Corporis, Pius XII addresses the question, How are those who attain salvation outside visible communion with the Church related to her? He says that they are oriented to the mystical body of Christ by a yearning and desire of which they are not aware (DS 3821).(Lionel: But this is a reference  by Pope Pius XII to hypothetical and invisible cases.This is something obvious.It is common sense.) The opposition of the American Jesuit Leonard Feeney, who insisted on the exclusivist interpretation of the expression extra ecclesiam nulla solus, afforded the occasion for the letter of the Holy Office, dated 8 August ,1949, to the archbishop of Boston, which rejected Feeney s interpretation and clarified the teaching of Pius XII. (So he means hypothetical cases are objective exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.He has used the false premise.)  The letter distinguishes between the necessity of belonging to the Church for salvation (necessitas praecepti) and the necessity of the indispensable means of salvation (intrinseca necessitas); in relationship to the latter, the Church is a general help for salvation (DS 3867—69).(O.K,Hypothetically but what has this to do with EENS ? The Letter made an irrational inference too.)  In the case of invincible ignorance the implicit desire of belonging to the Church suffices; this desire will always be present when a man aspires to conform his will to that of God (DS 3870).(Again he is referring to an unknown person so why is this mentioned with reference to EENS? Why? Since his new theology is based upon the irrational premise.) But faith, in the sense of Hebrews 11:6, and love are always necessary with intrinsic necessity (DS 3872).

67. Vatican Council II makes its own the expression extra ecclesiam nulla salus. But in using it the council explicitly directs itself to Catholics and limits its validity to those who know the necessity of the Church for salvation.(He interprets Lumen Gentium 14 as referring to known people saved outside the Church and so there are known people saved in invincible ignorance.So only those who know and are not in ignorance need to enter the Church for him and not all non Catholics in general.  The council holds that the affirmation is based on the necessity of faith and of baptism affirmed by Christ (LG 14). In this way the council aligned itself in continuity with the teaching of Pius XII,( The teaching of Pope Pius XII on EENS with known cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance.Unknown and hypothetical cases are made practical and known exceptions to Feeneyite EENS.Unknown cases are known exceptions. ) but emphasized more clearly the original parenthentical character of this expression.(Vaguely supporting the false premise and the New Theology which creates the hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition).

68. In contrast to Pius XII, the council refused to speak of a votum implicitum (implicit desire) and applied the concept of the votum only to the explicit desire of catechumens to belong to the Church (LG 14).(The catechumen who is saved with implicit or explicit desire is a hypothetical case. So why is it mentioned here ? Since it is not a hypothetical case for Cardinal Ratzinger and Fr. Luiz Ladaria s.j. ) With regard to non-Christians, it said that they are ordered in diverse ways to the people of God.(He does not say that they are all oriented to Hell. Since that would be the traditional Feeneyite theology with unknown cases not known exceptions to traditional EENS) In accord with the different ways with which the salvific will of God embraces non-Christians, the council distinguished four groups: first, Jews; second, Muslims; third, those who without fault are ignorant of the Gospel of Christ and do not know the Church but who search for God with a sincere heart and try to fulfill his will as known through conscience; fourth, those who without fault have not yet reached an express knowledge of God but who nonetheless try to lead a good life (LG 16). (For him the exceptions to the norm, faith and baptism , are the  ordinary means of salvation. )

Even ITC's The Hope of Salvation for Infants who die without being baptised is also presented with the false premise , which is a specific error in Vatican Council II.It creates the New Theology.Liberals and Lefebvrists interpret Vatican Council II with the New Theology.

58. In the face of new problems and situations and of an exclusive interpretation of the adage: (it was a dogma  defined by three Church Councils in the Extraordinary Magisterium and not an adage)“salus extra ecclesiam non est”, (it was always extra ecclesiam nulla salus) the magisterium, in recent times, has articulated a more nuanced understanding as to the manner in which a saving relationship with the Church can be realized.(He is referring to his irrational  interpretation with the false premise.He calls it a nuanced version. His 'nuanced version' of course is not the traditional exclusivist understanding of salvation with the rational premise.) The Allocution of Pope Pius IX, Singulari Quadam (1854) clearly states the issues involved: “It must, of course, be held as a matter of faith that outside the apostolic Roman Church no one can be saved, that the Church is the only ark of salvation, and that whoever does not enter it, will perish in the flood.(This is traditional Feeneyite theology which he will be contradicted in the next line by assuming unknown cases of being saved in invincible ignorance are exceptions to all needing to enter the Catholic Church for salvation) On the other hand, it must likewise be held as certain that those who live in ignorance of the true religion, if such ignorance be invincible, are not subject to any guilt in this matter before the eyes of the Lord” (In other words they are exceptions to EENS  for the ITC and so there is no more an exclusive interpretation. - 

THE HOPE OF SALVATION FOR INFANTS  WHO DIE WITHOUT BEING BAPTISED http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20070419_un-baptised-infants_en.html  

-Lionel Andrades

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GERMAN SYNODAL PATH

Since the popes from Paul VI have interpreted Vatican Council II with the false premise there exists the German Synodal Way.It would fall flat if the Germans would choose to use the rational premise.

The Lefebvrist and Ecclesia Dei communities are also using the same fake premise and are unaware of it.So they do not correct the mistake of Pope Francis and Pope Benedict.Vatican Council II with the rational premise would not be an issue for the traditionalists.

PROOF OF THE FALSE PREMISE

1.Pope Francis wants the Ecclesia Dei communities to interpret Vatican Council II with the false premise and only then they will be allowed to offer the Latin Mass.

2.Pope Benedict told the Society of St. Pius X that they had to accept Vatican Council II( with the irrational and not rational premise) to be canonically accepted and that this was a doctrinal issue.So they had to use the false premise to create the New Theology which changed doctrine/dogma on outside the Church there is no salvation.

3.In two theological papers of the International Theological Commission,Pope Benedict and Cardinal Luiz Ladaria sj, have criticized Fr. Leonard Feeney and his exclusivist ecclesiocentrism.They also mention that Vatican Council II(LG 16 etc) contradicted the priest’s exclusivist understanding of salvation.In other words, LG 16 referred to visible and known non Catholics saved outside the Church, without faith and the baptism of water.This is irrational. In this way, with the false premise i.e by confusing invisible cases of being saved in invincible ignorance, as being visible, practical exceptions were created for the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX.Exceptions were created for the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, the Catechism of Pope Pius X and Trent, EENS etc.

3.Cardinal Braz de Avez has told the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate that they had to accept Vatican Council II. He meant the Council had to be interpreted with the false premise and then a false rupture would be created with Tradition.

4.Archbishops Giacomo Morendi and Augustine di Noia of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, demanded that Brother Andre Marie MICM, and the religious community Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary interpret the Catechism of the Catholic Church( 847-848) on invincible ignorance with the false premise. This is irrational.The CDF and the Diocese of Manchester, USA are using the false premise. Since the St. Benedict Center refuses to do likewise, a severe Decree of Prohibitions has been placed upon them since 2019. 

5.The Abu Dhabi Statement of Pope Francis was attributed to a change in ecclesiology and theology created by Vatican Council II when the false premise is used to interpret the text.Without the fake premise the pope would have to say outside the Church there is no salvation. 

6.The pontifical universities in Rome are following the leftist theology and so I am not allowed to study theology and philosophy at the pontifical universities Regina Apostolorum and St. Thomas Aquinas(Angelicum) in Rome. Since I interpret Vatican Council II , the Creeds, Catechism, EENS and other Magisterial documents, with the rational premise. So there is no hermeneutic of rupture with Tradition.I was not allowed to continue as a seminarian at the pontifical seminaries Maria Mater Ecclesia and Beda College,Rome.The funding scholarship was also stopped by Propaganda Fide, Vatican.

7.All Pope Benedict’s books on Vatican Council II and Ecclesiology are written with a false premise. So his conclusion is non traditional and not the Deposit of the Faith.It is the same with the books of Cardinal Walter Kasper, Cardinal Marcello Semeraro and Archbishop Bruno Forte.

8.The dialogue with the Lutherans was based upon Vatican Council II interpreted with the false premise. Otherwise with the rational premise, the Lutherans are outside the Church without Catholic faith (AG 7).While Unitatis Redintigratio 3 etc in Vatican Council II are not practical exceptions to 16th century EENS.

9.The Italian Government is giving Alberto Melloni and his institution in Bologna, Italy over a million euros a year  when he interprets Vatican Council II with the fake premise.There is no objection from Pope Francis and Pope Benedict.His liberalism on ecumenism, salvation outside the Church etc would not be possible with Vatican Council II interpreted with the rational premise.

10.Pope Francis and Pope Benedict with their irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II are in schism with the past Magisterium. This is an impediment to offering Holy Mass. They are in an 'irregular situation'.

11.The pontifical universities Regina Apostolorum and John Lateran, Rome, along with German liberal theologians offer an academic course on Ratzinger Studies. It is based upon Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally. So it is politcally correct with the Left.The Wojtyla-Ratzinger interpretation of the Council is obsolete.It does not have a hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition.

12.The liberalism in the Church comes with the use of the false premise which makes the proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King in politics  and Traditional Mission obsolete. With this liberalism in the Catholic Church today does not oppose Satanic political parties in Rome( Partito Democratico, Movimento Cinque Stelle etc).They promote homosexual unions, abortion, contraception,public immodesty, pornography on the offical media and pontifical heresy and schism in the Catholic Church.

13.Summorum Pontificum of Pope Benedict permitted the Holy Mass but only for the priests who interpreted Vatican Council II with the fake premise and so supported the New Ecclesiology which is a break with the past.

14.Matteo Salvini and the Lega political party in Italy do not know that Vatican Council II can be interpreted with the rational premise, like I interpret it.This will mean that the local bishops and the parish priests would be able to affirm the Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics(Quas Primas) and the necessity to vote for a Catholic political party, to save souls from going to Hell - without any one citing Vatican Council II (irrational) in opposition.The Council interpreted with the rational premise is in the interest of the centre right political parties in Italy.So the Church's theological attitude to migrants and non Catholics would be Conciliar and also traditional on salvation.

15.Bishop Robert Barron is now as obsolete on Vatican Council II as is Massimo Faggioli.

16. Pope Francis thinks it is the Mass which makes a Catholic or seminarian 'rigid' when it really is the use of the false premise.It is no more 'only they need to enter the Church who know about it'(LG 14).Instead, it is all need to enter the Catholic Church with no known exception.Invincible ignorance is not an exception to all needing to enter the Church with faith and the baptism of water(LG 14,AG 7 etc). So we evangelize since all non Catholics are oriented to Hell without faith and the baptism of water( AG 7, LG 14 etc).The norm for salvationis faith and baptism and not invincible ignorance. When I meet a non Catholic, I cannot know if he or she is an exception to the norm.If there is an exception it could only be known to God.I know that ther non Catholic before me is oriented to Hell.(Athanasius Creed, Vatican Council II(AG 7, LG 14),Catechism of the Catholic Church( 845,846,1257), Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX etc.The non Catholic is not condemned as long as he or she is alive. There is hope.

17.The lay Catechists in my parish, Santa Maria di Nazareth, Casalotti, Boccea, Rome are forced to cheat and use a fake premise,inference and non traditional conclusion to interpret Vatican Council II.Then they emerge politically correct with the Vatican.They do not teach the young Catholics that there is exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church only.This is the diocese of Porta Santa Rufina, Rome under the Administration of the Archdiocese of Civitavecchia. -Lionel Andrades

Lionel Andrades

Catholic lay man in Rome,

Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There can be two interpretations.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, non traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional ?

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