Damien Fisher writing in the New Hampshire Union Leader , USA has reports calling the St. Benedict Center (SBC), Richmond, NH, ‘ultra traditionalists’ .This is even though the SBC accepts Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church and interprets them rationally, unlike the Diocese of Manchester in NH.

Damien Fisher writing in the New Hampshire Union Leader , USA  has reports calling the St. Benedict Center (SBC), Richmond, NH, ‘ultra traditionalists’ .This is even though the SBC accepts Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church and interprets them rationally, unlike the Diocese of Manchester in NH.

Fisher refers to the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary as ultra traditionalists when the community in New Hampshire affirms the Catechism of the Catholic Church and Vatican Council II and interpret them in harmony with Tradition.

Damien’s wife Simcha, refers to the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary at the St. Benedict Center, Richmond, NH, as a schismatic and ultra traditionalist group. But the SBC accepts Vatican Council II. They accept the Council interpreted rationally and reject the Council interpreted irrationally. They also acknowledge Pope Francis is the pope. They affirm all Magisterial Documents (Creeds, Catechisms etc) which they interpret only rationally.

 It is Damien and Simcha Fisher who do not accept Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, interpreted rationally. This is schism. Since they interpret the Council irrationally they are also re-interpreting the Creeds non traditionally. This is schism with the past Magisterium.The irrational premise creates schism and heresy.

Simcha Fischer says that the SBC are Anti Semitic. The SBC has clarified that they are not against all Jews. They oppose the Jewish Left which does not represent all Jews, like Orthodox Jews who oppose abortion, LGBT activity and Zionism.Orthodox Jews oppose the ADL.Similarly Fr. Leonard Feeney was not against all Jews in general.

It is the Simchas’ and the mainline Catholic Church which is in schism today when they irrationally interpret Church Magisterial Documents, for political left-reasons.

If Fr. Georges de Laire, the Judicial Vicar in the Diocese of Manchester in New Hampshire, USA would interpret Vatican Council II rationally would then he would be Feeneyite on EENS like the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

How can Brother Andre Marie micm the Superior at the St. Benedict Center, NH who accepts Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, only when it is interpreted rationally, and who accepts Pope Francis as the pope, be labeled ‘ultra traditionalist’, ‘schismatic’ and ‘anti Semitic’?  - Lionel Andrades

 

https://www.unionleader.com/news/religion/religious-community-raises-money-despite-restrictions/article_b7b4f383-c0db-5c0f-be40-4a7e2ccafa3c.html

https://www.americamagazine.org/content/all-things/celebrating-nfp-awareness-week-qa-simcha-fisher

https://nhjournal.com/author/damienfisher/

JULY 15, 2022

The New Hampshire Union Leader could clarify that the CDF uses a False Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and EENS and there is no denial from the CDF.Why should the SBC use a False Premise too ? It is unethical.

 

Damien Fisher writing for the New Hampshire Union Leader calls the St. Benedict Center, New Hampshire, USA ‘ a sect’ and does not deny that he interprets Vatican Council II irrationally and so is in schism with the pre-1940 Magisterium  like the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF), Vatican.The St. Benedict Center instead affirms Vatican Council II ( Rational).

The New Hampshire Union Leader has not reported that the St. Benedict Center, NH accepts Vatican Council II interpreted rationally without the common False Premise.The CDF does not do this and neither does the diocese of Manchester, where the bishop is Peter Libasci.There is no comment from the Curia there since they are all choosing the False Premise for political reasons..

The SBC accepts EENS according to Vatican Council II interpreted with a Rational Premise. So Damien Fisher and Fr. Georges de Laire, Judicial Vicar of the diocese, cannot call them ‘ a radical sect’.This needs to be clarified by Damien Fisher.

He needs to mention that Fr. Georges de Laire admits he used a False Premise to interpret Vatican Council II otherwise he would have to affirm EENS like the SBC  against whom he has issued a harsh Decree of Prohibitions.

Simcha and Damien Fisher have written that the SBC do not accept Church teachings.This is not true.The SBC accepts Vatican Council II rationally. The Council interpreted rationally supports 16th century EENS.The Magisterium in the 16th century did not project unknown cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) as being practical exceptions for the traditional strict interpertation of EENS.

The SBC accepts BOD, BOB and I.I which can only be hypothetical and speculative. It is the CDF which projects BOD, BOB and I.I as physically visible cases in the present times, known non Catholics now in Heaven saved without faith and baptism. This is irrational.There are no such people.However this irrationality is needed by them to avoid Feeneyite EENS.

The New Hampshire Union Leader could clarify that the CDF uses a False Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and EENS and there is no denial from the CDF.Why should the SBC use a False Premise too ? It is unethical.

The CDF and Fr. Laire use a False Premise to interpret Vatican Council II. There is no denial from them.So is their Decree of Prohibitions coercion? They are trying to force the SBC to use the False Premise too ?

What if the SBC took all of them to court  to clear their name and stop this false campaign against them ? The diocese, the media and the CDF must be asked for a  correction. Since the SBC is faithful to Church teachings. They are interpreting Magisterial Documents with a Rational Premise and the CDF is choosing the Irrational Premise.

The SBC accepts the First Part of the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 which supports Feeneyite EENS and rejects the second part.It uses a False Premise to contradict the First Part.

The Curia in the diocese of Manchester are choosing a False Premise to change Church teachings, like the present two popes and the cardinals and bishops, and are maligning the SBC for not being dishonest too.So the catechesis and prepartion for First Holy Communion is Christocentric but not ecclesiocentric in New Hampshire diocese.

We can now interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise  and we are back to the pre-1949  Catholic Church in faith and morals,mission and ecumenism and the old Catechisms.The Council no more contradicts Tradition.  

-Lionel Andrades

JULY 14, 2022

The National Catholic Reporter does not state that if the Curia in the Diocese of Manchester, USA would interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise they would be affirming Feeneyite EENS like the St. Benedict Center in New Hampshire

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/07/the-national-catholic-reporter-does-not.html

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JUNE 17, 2022

Sister Maria Philomena MICM, Director, St. Augustine Institute of Wisdom interprets Vatican Council II with a Rational Premise but Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre was not informed about this possibility, by Pope John Paul II and Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/06/sister-maria-philomena-micm-director-st.html

JUNE 12, 2022

We have a new discovery on Vatican Council II

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2022/06/we-have-new-discovery-on-vatican.html

WE HAVE TWO INTERPRETATIONS OF 

VATICAN COUNCIL II 

Lionel Andrades

Catholic lay man in Rome. Writer on the discovery of the two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.

 Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational version which is heretical, nontraditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?

It is unethical to interpret Vatican Council II with the False and not Rational Premise.

Blog: Eucharist and Mission (eucharistandmission)

E-mail: lionelandrades10@gmail.com

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SATURDAY, DECEMBER 31, 2022

When the Diocese of Manchester, USA cheats on Vatican Council II etc how can they legally be trusted on other issues?

When the Diocese of Manchester, USA cheats on Vatican Council II etc how can they legally be trusted on other issues? The diocese is being dishonest for political reasons. This is not the Catholic faith.

It is obligatory for Bishop Peter Libasci, the bishop of Manchester in New Hampshire, and Fr. Georges de Laire, Judicial Vicar, to only accept Vatican Council II (rational).They must also correct the error of Damien and Sincha Fisher in New Hampshire publications, in which they have interpreted the Council irrationally.Fr. Georges de Laire has personally handed information to Damien Fisher, against the St. Benedict Center, NH. He has interpreted Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus (baptism of desire etc) irrationally.This was political and unethical.They are dishonest on this issue. How can they be trusted on other issues?

The media in NH has been calling the St. Benedict Center a sect because the SBC interpret Magisterial Documents rationally and in harmony with Tradition unlike the Simchas’, who were not corrected by Bishop Libasci and the CDF.

Mayor Joyce Craig in New Hampshire must ask all Catholic religious communities and organizations to be honest. The State Legislature could clarify this issue.Bishop Libasci, according to the diocese website, tells Catholics not to go to the chapel of the CMRI. The CMRI reject the popes because they accept Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally and so there is a break with Tradition. Bishop Libasci has also stopped Mass at the SBC chapel in Richmond, NH, where they interpret Vatican Council II and EENS rationally, unlike the diocese.

 Bishop Libasci’s Judicial Vicar, Fr. Georges de Laire has filed a defamation suit against Michael Voris who had come to NH to interview Brother Andre Marie micm, the Prior, of the St. Benedict Center.This was  after the diocese issued a harsh Decree of Prohibitions against the SBC.

In the legal case in which the SBC was mentioned, it was not stated that if Bishop Libasci and Fr. Laire did not dishonestly, use the Fake Premise, to interpret Vatican Council II etc.They would be affirming the strict interpretation of  EENS and so the Decree of Prohibitions would also apply for them.

If the Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF), Vatican, Archbishop Augustine di Noia op, did not use the same Fake Premise, the Decree of Prohibitions would also apply for him at the Vatican. It would be the same for Damien and Simcha Fisher and the Curia in NH. The false premise protects them.

Judge Johnstone who heard the De Laire – Voris case in NH could be asked to clarify this point. An injustice is being done to the SBC. The judge could ask that the Decree of Prohibitions be extended to Bishop Libasci and Archbishop Di Noia.  -Lionel Andrades

FEBRUARY 9, 2019

The red is not an exception to the blue' : new extraordinary understanding of Vatican Council II 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/02/the-red-is-not-exception-to-blue-new.html

 FEBRUARY 15, 2019

The difference between the CDF/SSPX and the SBC is over the red passages

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/02/ave-maria-original.html  

 

 

FEBRUARY 6, 2021

The St. Benedict Center is not using a false premise to interpret Magisterial documents like the CDF and Rev. de Laire : Their use of the false premise is unethical.It is a public lie and they are forcing it upon all Catholics in New Hampshire

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/02/the-st-benedict-center-is-not-using.html

JUNE 10, 2020

Diocese of Manchester, USA and CDF grant canonical status for religious communities which interpret Vatican Council II with a false premise, inference and conclusion

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/06/diocese-of-manchester-usa-and-cdf-grant.html

  

 

 

DECEMBER 16, 2018

The faculty of the Thomas More College(TMC) of Liberal Arts, N.H, USA is not eligible to teach according to Canon Law since they reject the Syllbus of Errors , Athanasius Creed, past catechisms, original understanding of the Nicene Creed,the dogma EENS and reinterpret Vatican Council II as a rupture with Tradition when it is not: Phil Lawler could be an exception. 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/12/the-faculty-of-thomas-more-collegetmc.html

DECEMBER 8, 2018

Thomas More College of Liberal Arts rejects Catholic Tradition by irrationally interpreting Vatican Council II. This has the approval of the two popes, the political Left and the college accreditors :I support Tradition by re-interpreting Vatican Council II rationally

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/12/thomas-more-college-of-liberal-

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The chaplains also need to affirm the orthodox position on EENS without rejecting Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church (1994).

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MONDAY, DECEMBER 17, 2018

The Thomas More College of Liberal Arts,New Hampshire, USA needs to have mission programs with traditional mission doctrines and the old rational theology.

  

The Thomas More College of Liberal Arts,New Hampshire, USA needs to have mission programs with traditional mission doctrines and the old rational theology.

Students could give talks first among Catholics telling them that Vatican Council II says outside the Church there is no salvation.

Jesus tells us in John 3:5 that all need the baptism of water for salvation. In Mark 16:16  he tells us that God the Father has chosen His Son as the only way of salvation.Those  who do not believe in Jesus within the Catholic community; the Catholic Church,will be condemned.Jesus says those who deny Him he will deny before the Father in Heaven.(Matt.10:37)

So membership in the Catholic Church with faith and baptism is necessary for all.It is necessary to avoid the fires of Hell, according to the Bible.

Vatican Council II indicates most people go to Hell since they die without faith and baptism(Ad Gentes 7, Lumen Gentium 14).Today there are billions of people in Hell.This is the teaching of Vatican Council II and the Catholic Church. It is consistent with the saints over the centuries. They knew that most people go to Hell.Few are those who are saved.

So when we meet non Catholics we know that they are Hell-bound.Since they will die without the ordinary means of salvation,which is faith and baptism.

  

There are no known exceptions to the ordinary means of salvation. The baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and invincible ignorance(I.I) are not practical exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).They are not practical exceptions to the ordinary means of salvation.We cannot meet or see any one saved outside the Church.God made it this way.

BOD, BOB and I.I are not the ordinary means of salvation and neither are LG 8, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II.The Council does not contradict EENS, the past ecclesiology, an ecumenism or return or the Syllabus of Errors.

So it is necessary that everyone become Catholic to avoid Hell. Jesus founded only one Church, the Catholic Church.

The Bible is Catholic. The Catholic Church  chose the inspired manuscripts which form the Bible. The liturgy of  Christians comes from the Catholic Church at the time of King Constantine the Great.The Holy Trinity is a dogma of a Catholic Church Council.

The Medieval Age ,was  a golden period in the history of the Church. The Medieval Fathers were Catholic.There were great saints who experienced the highest levels of union with God, while remaining within the Catholic Church.

The Catholic Church is the continuation of the Jewish religion.Catholics are the new people of God,the Chosen People ( Nostra Aetate 4, Vatican Council II). They have the Sacrifice in the Mass, they have the Messiah promised by the Jewish prophets. They have the Ark of the Covenant in the Eucharist placed in a tabernacle. They have the Sacred Scriptures which include the Old Testament and the Jewish Pentateuch.They have an eternal covenant made with the Death and Resurrection of Jesus. It was a fulfillment of the old covenants Yahweh made with the Jews. Catholics have the temple, the church, where the one and only Sacrifice of Jesus is re-enacted in an un-bloody way, at Holy Mass.

In Heaven there are only Catholics.They are there with Catholic Faith and the baptism of water(AG 7).

Jesus died for all. Salvation is open to all in potential but to receive this salvation all need to be members of the Catholic Church( Dominus Iesus n.20,Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Notification, Dupuis, 2002).

The Catholic Church is the Ark of Noah that saves in the flood (Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC) 845).God wants all people to be united in the Catholic Church(CCC 845). 

Since membership in the Catholic Church is necessary for salvation the priority is the non separation of Church and State and the proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King in all political and social legislation.

Satanic secularism and State must be separated and opposed.

We cannot separate Jesus from the Church(Dominus Iesus).The Church is the Mystical Body of Jesus the Bible tells us.

We cannot have a kerygma without the necessity of membership in the Catholic Church.Jesus died and is risen to save all from Hell. Those who believe in Him and live his teachings in the Catholic Church, will be saved from the fires of Hell.Outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation.Three Church Councils in Catholic history called it extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It is also the message in Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II which calls us to proclaim it to the peoples.It says all need faith and baptism for salvation and not just those who know about Jesus and the Church.

The Good News is that all who believe in Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Second Person of the Trinity, the Promised Messiah who will come again, will have eternal life in Heaven. They must believe that Jesus Died and is Risen and with his Sacrifice took He away our sins. They must live the traditional teachings of the Catholic Church on faith and morals.The Catholic Church has a perennial Magisterium inspired by the Holy Spirit. Jesus is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow.(Heb.13:8).

Jesus in the Catholic Church is the narrow gate(Matt.7:13), the pearl of great price (Matt.13:45-46), the man who found a treasure in the field and sold all to have it (Matt:13:44-46).

"Saul, Saul why do you persecute me", Jesus said identifying Himself with the Church(Acts.9:4).So we cannot have faith in Christ ( Christology) without  membership in the Catholic Church( ecclesiocentric ecclesiology).

The Eucharist at Mass is necessary for salvation for all and so is the Sacrament of Baptism.Those who die for Jesus and the Church as martyrs, have a special place in Heaven.-Lionel Andrades

  

DECEMBER 15, 2018

There is a rupture between faith and reaoson at the Thomas More College of Liberal Arts, New Hampshire : the President does not deny it in specific points

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/12/there-is-rupture-between-faith-and.html

DECEMBER 14, 2018

Faculty at the Thomas More College of Liberal Arts will not theologically and doctrinally discuss this issue

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/12/faculty-at-thomas-more-college-of.html

 DECEMBER 13, 2018

At the Thomas More College of Liberal Arts they do not affirm orthodoxy and deny teaching heresy : they follow present day ecclesiastics in a rupture with the past Magisterium

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/12/at-thomas-more-college-of-liberal-arts.html

 DECEMBER 13, 2018

Faculty divided

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/12/faculty-divided.html

 DECEMBER 12, 2018

Phil Lawler contradicts William and Amy Fahey on the faculty of Thomas More College of Liberal Arts :Nicene Creed changed

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/12/phil-lawler-contradicts-william-and-amy.html

No clarification or denial from Thomas More College of Liberal Arts : public heresy and sacrilege

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/12/no-clarification-or-denial-from-thomas.html

 DECEMBER 11, 2018

For centuries Catholic Tradition, the saints and popes taught that all need to be members of Jesus' Mystical Body, with 'faith and baptism'(Ad Genets 7, Vatican Council II), for salvation. Vatican Council II says 'all' and not just those who know or do not know

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/12/for-centuries-catholic-tradition-saints.html

 DECEMBER 9, 2018

Thomas More College of Liberal Arts (TMC) is unaware of the mistake in Vatican Council II: Church documents and saints contradict themselves for the faculty

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/12/thomas-more-college-of-liberal-arts-tmc.html

DECEMBER 10, 2018

DECEMBER 8, 2018

Feast of St.Ambrose : Who can judge an Emperor Valentinian II today ? (Graphics)

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/12/feast-of-stambrose-who-can-judge.html

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