Wednesday, May 10, 2023

How can Pope Francis offer Holy Mass,he does not affirm the Nicene and Athanasius Creed in the original and traditional meaning ?

 

                                                                                                                  -Lionel Andrades


 The ecclesiology of Pope Francis and Cardinal Kaspar is based on the objective error in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/11/the-ecclesiology-of-pope-francis-and.html

From Pope Paul VI to Pope Francis... : Can popes reject an ex cathedra teaching and offer Holy Mass ? Yes, defacto this is what is being done

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/02/from-pope-paul-vi-to-pope-francis-can.html

Pope Francis, Cardinal Muller and Cardinal Ladaria are refusing to interpret Vatican Council II without the irrationality

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/11/pope-francis-cardinal-muller-and.html


From Pope Pius XII to Pope Francis they all have been using an irrational premise in the interpretation of magisterial texts

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/12/from-pope-pius-xii-to-pope-francis-they.html

Pope Francis presents Protestant kerygma contradicts Vatican Council II

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/01/pope-francis-presents-protestant.html

Pope Francis like the sedevacantists uses Marchetti's irrational premise and inference. He accepts the Council with this error
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/06/pope-francis-like-sedevantists-uses.html

Pope Francis wants the Franciscans of the Immaculate to accept Vatican Council II with the IRRATIONAL RED column

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/02/pope-francis-wants-franciscans-of.html

No one denies that the pope has made a Cushingite error

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/10/no-one-denies-that-pope-has-made.html

What a long line of religious formators who will teach heresy like our pope
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/11/what-long-line-of-religious-formators.html

POPE FRANCIS AND CARDINAL BRAZ DE AVEZ EXPECT THE FRANCISCANS OF THE IMMACULATE TO BE OBEDIENT TO A FALSEHOOD EVEN AFTER BEING INFORMED
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Cardinal Kaspar changed ecclesiology assuming B is an exception to A: he used an irrational model to interpret Vatican Council II


Jesuits in first class heresy 
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/07/jesuits-in-first-class-heresy.html#links


-Lionel Andrades

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TO OFFER HOLY MASS IN PUBLIC HERESY IS A  SACRILEGE.

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MARCH 23, 2022

When the Rational Premise is chosen to interpret Vatican Council II then there is no 'ordinary' and 'extraordinary' form of the Mass. Since the ecclesiology of Holy Mass is the same. It is exclusivist. It is a return to the old theology..

 When the Rational Premise is chosen to interpret Vatican Council II then there is no 'ordinary' and 'extraordinary' form of the Mass. Since the ecclesiology of Holy Mass is the same. It is exclusivist. It is a return to the old theology..-Lionel Andrades


https://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2022/03/for-record-extraordinary-form-of-roman.html

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MARCH 29, 2018

The Novus Ordo Mass is also the immemorial Mass of All Ages for me.It is a continuation of the old Rite, which affirmed the traditional exclusivist interpretation of outside the Church there is no salvation


I think the Roman Rite, the Mass in Latin is a continuation of the Mass in Greek and this makes it the immemorial Mass.The Novus Ordo Mass is a continuation of this Mass of All Ages.

So without the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 (LOHO) error Mass in English would have the same ecclesiology as Mass in Greek and Latin.

Also without the LOHO error the present ecclesiology of Mass in Latin, will not be a rupture with the ecclesiology of Mass in Latin, during the 16th century.

Presently there is no unity in theology and doctrine among those who offer/attend the Traditional Latin Mass.

The traditionalists at the St.Benedict Centers, affirm Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus at Mass since there are no known exceptions of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) for them.They reject the LOHO reasosong.
At the SSPX Latin Mass they reject Feeneyite EENS and affirm the LOHO reasoning(invisible people are visible in the present times).Similarly for the community Priestley Fraternity of St. Peter (FSSP),  BOD, BOB and I.I are exceptions to Feeneyite EENS. So there is created two different ecclesiologies and an understanding of salvation. One with and the other without the LOHO reasoning.
So the SSPX offers Mass with the new ecclesiology.This is not the Mass of the 16th century when LOHO reasoning did not exist.The missionaries in the 16th century accepted BOD, BOB and I.I as being only hypothetical and speculative .They could not be objective examples of salvation outside the Church.
In this sense the present Latin Mass offered by Una Voce is not the Mass of All Ages in its ecclesiology.Since Una Voce supports the LOHO reasoning.There is no more an ecumenism of return with their New Theology, Cushingite Theology.This is a rupture with the past.
So the ecclesiology of the FSSP and Una Voce Mass is the same as the Novus Ordo Mass.
For me there is no change in ecclesiology before and after Vatican Council II since I reject the second part of LOHO, since it contradicts the first part. So the Novus Ordo Mass is also the immemorial Mass of All Ages for me.It is a continuation of the old Rite, which affirmed the traditional exclusivist interpretation of outside the Church there is no salvation.-Lionel Andrades

http://eponymousflower.blogspot.it/2018/03/new-old-liberal-bishop-is-worried-by.html#comment-form


MARCH 28, 2018

Bishop of Porto,Portugal Manuel da Silva's mistake - liturgy does not determine 'the strict groups' : it is LOHO which decides ecclesiology
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/03/bishop-of-portoportiugal-manuel-da.html

MARCH 28, 2018

Archbishop Guido Pozzo Secretary, Ecclesia Dei,Vatican : according to Canon Law he must affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors and Vatican Council II.He does not do this
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/03/archbishop-guido-pozzo-secretary.html

 DECEMBER 19, 2017

Joseph Shaw interprets Vatican Council II according to the Left and links it to the liturgy

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/12/joseph-shaw-interprets-vatican-council.html

NOVEMBER 30, 2017


With this irrational theology, the new theology of the two popes, there is lex orandi and lex credendi among the traditionalists and liberals http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/with-this-irrational-theology-new.html



NOVEMBER 19, 2017

Rorate Caeili , Una Voce offer Traditional Latin Mass without EENS(Feeneyite) as in the 16th century Latin Mass :alternative to New Age
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/rorate-caeili-una-voce-offer.html

 DECEMBER 24, 2016

For Cardinal Burke the baptism of desire etc is an exception to the dogma EENS. This a rupture with Catholic doctrine and also the ecclesiology of the Latin Mass in the 16th century   

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/for-cardinal-burke-baptism-of-desire.html
DECEMBER 7, 2016
Ecclesia Dei has approved the Tridentine Rite Mass but only with the new ecclesiology in 2017 : Summorum Pontificum pilgrimage
  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/12/pontifical-commission-ecclesia-dei-has.html
MARCH 7, 2014
Summorum Pontificum does not say if Vatican Council II is to be interpreted with or without the false premise http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2014/03/summorum-pontificum-does-not-say-if.html
 AUGUST 25, 2016
The Latin Mass is available in Rome but not the Tridentine Rite Mass.That has been effectivly prohibited by the contemporary magisterium and the political Left.It is not there even at the SSPX chapel http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/08/the-latin-mass-is-available-in-rome-but.html
NOVEMBER 19, 2013  Ecclesiology is not dependent on the liturgy   http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/11/ecclesiology-is-not-dependent-on-liturgy.html
 DECEMBER 3, 2011  IMPEDIMENT FOR THOSE WHO OFFER THE TRADITIONAL LATIN MASS ? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2011/12/impediment-for-those-who-offer.html 
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SUNDAY, DECEMBER 6, 2015
I attend the Novus Ordo Mass but I would be 'ideological' for Pope Francis
The Vatican must stop linking the Latin Mass with the traditional ecclesiology.I affirm the traditional ecclesiology and attend Mass here in Italian. So Pope Francis' reference to the 'ideology' does not depend upon the Mass.
I avoid the factual mistake of Pope Pius XII, father of the new theology,  and so for me the ecclesiology of the Mass in the vernacular is the same as that of the Traditional Latin Mass.
Pope Francis offers Holy Mass with the new ecclesiology, the  new theology and the theology of religions based on there being salvation outside the Catholic Church.So since there is salvation outside the Church for him, the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus is rejected.This is the 'ideology' he prefers. 
But I know there is no known case of salvation outside the Church in 2015. I cannot  meet, see or know any such person.You may speculate and hope there is such a case but there is no known case in real life. We cannot know of someone saved without Catholic Faith and the baptism of water.
Assuming that there are such known cases in real life, was an objective mistake made in the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston during the pontificate of Pope Pius XII.
I attend Holy Mass in Italian and also the Traditional Latin Mass and there is no difference in theology for me.Ecclesiology has not changed.There is no hermeneutic of rupture for me.Since I do not and cannot know any one saved outside the Church.There is no ambiguity in the text of Vatican Council II for me.I avoid the false premise and inference, and so there is no change in the ecclesiology.
Vatican Council II in its text is not ambiguous. However the text can be interpreted irrationally.So the Council comes across as ambiguous. This aids the 'ideology' of Pope Francis and the liberals.
With the irrational premise (there is salvation outside the Church since people without faith and baptism are visible and known in 2015 even though they are in Heaven) Vatican Council II rejects the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. Without the irrational premise Vatican Council II does not reject the dogma and I am aware of this fact.It is with this knowledge that I can attend the Novus Ordo Mass. So with the ideology of the ancient Traditional  Latin Mass , opposed by Pope Francis, I am attending the Novus Ordo Mass. Any Catholic can do the same.Even members of the Charismatic Renewal, Focolares and New Catechumenate communities can do the same. All the religious communities can do the same.
Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre, Michael Davis, the SSPX bishops and priests, assumed there were  known exceptions to the dogma in Vatican Council II (UR 3, LG 8, LG 16, NA 2 etc) and this was a break with the old Jesuit missionaries.Now priests who offer Holy Mass in the vernacular  can affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus according to St. Robert Bellarmine, St. Francis Xavier, St. Ignatius of Loyola, St. Francis of Assisi... Vatican Council II is in perfect agreement with St.Robert Bellarmine on other religions and ecumenism.We are back to the old ecclesiology irrespective of the liturgy or Rite.
Without the Lefebvre mistake of being able to see the dead-saved with the naked eye, the Novus Ordo Mass and the Traditional Latin Mass has the same 'ideology'.It is the ideology not approved by Pope Francis.
Without the irrational premise (of being able to see non Catholics in Heaven saved without the baptism of water)  the priest  who offers Holy Mass today can know Jews need to convert  for salvation.He knows this according to Ad  Gentes 7 and Lumen Gentium 14  in Vatican Council II. So there are no known exceptions to the strict interpretation of the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Church. This is said not only according to  the Good Friday Prayer for the Conversion of the Jews in the Tridentine Rite Mass. This is Vatican Council II!
Ecclesiology is not dependent on the liturgy.One can offer the Novus Ordo or Traditional Latin Mass using a false premise in theology. It is the premise that changes ecclesiology irrespective of the liturgy. 
Liturgy is independent of dogma.Today a false premise is being used in the interpretation of magisterial documents. This has continued since 1949 . After Vatican Council II  priests who offer Mass in the vernacular and those who offer the Tridentine Rite Mass in Rome use this premise to create a new ecclesiolgy. They are both denying the Catholic faith on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.The Latin Mass societies are faithful to the ritual and Rite but have rejected the old ecclesiology of the Latin Mass.
Even the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) priests offer the Tridentine Rite Mass while assuming there are known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. With this false premise they assume that Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition.The problem is with the premise and not the Mass.The Mass in the vernacular is valid and licit but generally the priest who offers it is in material heresy.
Often this heresy is manifest in public.The priest, bishop, cardinal or pope would be in the automatically excommunicated category.Also the same error, the samer heresy, comes up in  the Profession of Faith, when they recite the Nicene Creed. They say' I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sin' but mean three or more known baptisms.
Presently the priest offering the Novus Ordo or  Traditional Latin Mass has the faculties even when he is in public heresy ( for me) .While the SSPX priests are not being given the faculties since they refuse to accept a heretical interpretation of Vatican Council II (Cushingism version).Similarly a priest who offers the Novus Ordo Mass, with Feeneyism as a theology, could lose his faculties during the pontificate of Pope Francis. Theology counts and Catholics are not aware of it.
The Priestly Fraternity of St.Peter (FSSP) is welcomed in new parishes and dioceses since like the priests who offer the Novus Ordo Mass, they believe there are explicit exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. They are not ideological. However if they offered the Novus Ordo Mass and said there are no exceptions to the dogma EENS, they would become ideological.
Related imageFor me, rationally we are back to extra ecclesiam nulla salus which the Church has not retracted in any Magisterial document. The Catechism of the Catholic Church 846 can be interpreted in accord with the dogma on exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. CCC 846 on Outside the Church No Salvation says all need to enter the Church as through a door. This was how the Church Fathers described extra ecclesiam nulla salus. CCC’s 846’s reference to those saved implicitly through Jesus and the Church does not contradict the dogma, since we do not know a single person, saved through Jesus and the Church and without formal entry into the Church.
So I affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma and attend the Novus Ordo Mass! The Franciscans of the Immaculate, the SSPX and the sedevacantists could do the same as me.-Lionel Andrades
Bishop Bernard Fellay, like Archbishop Lefebvre and the Prefects of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith made a doctrinal error on the baptism of desire being visible to us. Could the SSPX also be wrong about the Holy Mass ?  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2013/01/bishop-bernard-fellay-like-archbishop.html

MONDAY, JANUARY 7, 2019
Fr.Dwight Longenecker and Peter Kwasniewski offer/ attend Holy Mass by reinterpreting Magisterial documents with a false premise .Then with this public heresy they condone sacrilege
MONDAY, JANUARY 07, 2019
Ten Reasons Not to Prefer the Novus Ordo: A Reply to Fr. Longenecker
Peter Kwasniewski
Fr. Longenecker has written some fine books and articles. Years ago, I enjoyed and benefited from his book on St. Benedict and St. Thérèse of Lisieux, and his recent book on the historical veracity of the Magi is interesting.
 
Lionel: Fr.Dwight Longenecker and Peter Kwasniewski offer/ attend Holy Mass  by reinterpreting Magisterial documents with a false premise .Then with this public heresy they condone  sacrilege.
There will be no denial from them. They agree that they interpret invisible cases of the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) as being visible exceptions to Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).There is no denial from them since they do not want to affirm EENS like the Magisterium and missionaries in the 16th century.
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It would appear that in matters liturgical, however, Fr. Longenecker is out of his depth. 
 Lionel: They both are out of their depth on matters doctrinal and theological when they assume unknown cases of the BOD, BOB and I.I are known exceptions to the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS.They mix up what is invisible as being visible and what is subjective as being objective.
They assume unknown cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2,GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are known exceptions to EENS, the past exclusivist ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return. So Vatican Council II is interpreted as a rupture with Tradition. With all this heresy, now known in public, they offer/attend Holy Mass.
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Each claim he puts forward in his article “Twelve Things I Like about the Novus Ordo Mass” can be and has been refuted in the ample literature written on the subject, of which he appears to be ignorant. Indeed, the article betrays minimal knowledge of the history, process, and content of the liturgical reform (as, for instance, well documented in this biography of Annibale Bugnini) and of the contrasting richness of the traditional Mass.
Let us walk through Fr. Longenecker’s Twelve Things (printed in boldface).
1. It’s accessible. Having the liturgy in the vernacular helps it to be understood by the people. How can that be a bad thing?
It is characteristic of the rationalism of the liturgical movement (based on its Enlightenment precursors) to prioritize verbal comprehension over a more synthetic and holistic understanding of the mystery of faith, which draws on all the senses and appeals to the heart as well as the intellect. The use of Latin, in addition to being simply what the Western Church did for over 1,500 years, creates for worshipers a numinous and sacral atmosphere that invites meditation and adoration.
Lionel: However for 1500 years Catholics at Mass meditated on how there is exclusive salvation in Jesus and His Mystical Body the Church. They did not separate Jesus from exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.They did not separate membership in the Church from entry into Heaven.They did not offer/attend the Tridentine Rite Mass as a rupture with the necessity of being a member of the Catholic Church for salvation.
Now Kwaniseki and Longenecker deny exclusive salvation in the Church.They deny it in public.They also project BOD,BOB and I.I and LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 , GS 22 etc as exceptions.They agree with me.
So when they deny Feeneyite EENS with a bad premise, they also change the meaning of the Nicene Creed, the Apostles Creed and the Athanasius Creed. This would be first class heresy for 1500 years. They would not be allowed to attend Holy Mass without a recantation.
But they could not care less. Since at Holy Mass and in their writings, they have to be politically correct with the Left, which  generally represent Satan. Mass.
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Moreover, seeking the goal of easy intelligibility led the reformers to dumb down much of the content of the Mass so that it might not be “too hard.” What is the heavy price we pay for the all too obvious “accessibility” of the Novus Ordo? Superficiality and boredom. It’s so accessible that it “fails to grip,” as P.G. Wodehouse would say. This is why we have a new self-help genre on getting over one’s boredom with Mass and various faddish movements like LifeTeen for pumping up the Novus Ordo. In contrast, the traditional Latin Mass is steep, craggy, and sublime, offering the worshiper the kind of challenge that befits his rational dignity and supernatural destiny, and opening up an endless vista of new discoveries in the age-old prayers and gestures.
Lionel: I attend the Novus Ordo and Latin Mass and I am not bored at either.
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Finally, no literate person is incapable of using a daily missal, where all the antiphons, prayers, and readings may be found in vernacular translations – but without any attempt at an “official” translation of the impossible-to-translate ancient Latin texts, thus avoiding the intractable battles over what “style” and “register” of vernacular should be used in the liturgy. The major prayers of the Mass are fixed and repeated from week to week, so it is not difficult to follow them, as one can see from wee lads and lasses who do this at the traditional Latin Mass.
Lionel: They are there at the Latin Mass(, which is not the Traditional Latin Mass) with a new ecclesiology, new theology, new evangelisation etc,.Otherwise they would not have permission to attend/offer this Latin Mass.Pope Francis encourages the Latin Mass and so do the bishops.
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 2. It’s flexible. We’re supposed to honor Latin as the language of our church and it is easy enough to integrate a little or a lot of Latin into th e Novus Ordo Mass. It is also flexible musically. You don’t have to use Haagan Daz, hootenany and soft rock music. Learn Gregorian chant and polyphony. It fits.
The idea that a liturgy should be a matter of “picking and choosing” among options is foreign to the historical development of Christian liturgy in East and West, which has always been toward greater definition, consistency, and stability of liturgical texts, chants, and ceremonies. A liturgy is a ritual action in which the actors lose their idiosyncratic individuality and adopt a persona that befits the mysteries enacted. The clergy should come across not as the ones steering and coloring the enterprise, but as stewards of a treasure they receive and place humbly before the people; the people, for their part, find it easier to pray when the liturgy is not a moving target, but one can enter again and again into the same sacred routine. This intrinsic quality of good liturgy is absent from the Novus Ordo by design.
Lionel:  I would attend the Latin Mass offered by the late Mons. Ignacio Barreiro in Rome.He was not willing to affirm Feeneyite EENS like St. Ignatious or Loyola, St. Robert Bellarmine, St. Thomas Aquinas....He was protecting his career. 
So the liturgy was there but he was not allowed to express the traditional ecclesiology of the Church as for example in the 16th century. This was not the Tridentine Rite Mass of the past.
Then I would attend the Latin Mass offered by the FSSP priests in Rome after Pope Benedict issued Summorum Pontificum. Again they were afraid to affirm EENS according to the past Catechisms.They would not answer questions from a Catholic about the strict interpretation of EENS.They would not provide their telephone number with a pamphlet citing Dominus Iesus and the CDF Notification on Fr. Jacques Dupuis sj. They were afraid.
So there were the vestments and  rituals but the traditional faith was missing.
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Concretely, what does this flexibility end up looking like? We can choose the Roman Canon, that which defines the Roman Rite, or a Eucharistic Prayer patterned after a pseudo-anaphora written by pseudo-Hippolytus and finished on a napkin in Trastevere. We can have the chant that grew up for a thousand years with the rite, or some sentimental piano tune by an ex-Jesuit. We can have Mass facing East in accord with apostolic tradition (as St. Basil and others testify), or we can try our luck with the novel “closed circle” approach of versus populum. We can have people line up for communion in the hand like customers queuing for bus tickets, scattering fragments of the Body of Christ hither and yon, or place the Lord on the tongue of believers kneeling in a posture of adoration.  All this great flexibility! The devil delights in it, since it usually plays in his favor...
Lionel: The new doctrines with heretical conclusions could also be attributed to the flexibility of Mass in Latin.-Lionel Andrades
http://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2019/01/ten-reasons-not-to-prefer-novus-ordo.html#more
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WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 29, 2021
Pope Francis and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican must inform the secular media that Vatican Council II can now be interpreted with a Rational Premise and that there was a mistake in Traditionis Custode(TC). TC interpreted the Council with an Irrational Premise.
In England, Cardinal Vince Nicols needs to tell the politicians, the secular media and the ecumenism and inter-religious dialogue groups, that Vatican Council II can be interpreted with a Rational Premise and the conclusion is exclusivist, traditional and missionary. Even the Latin Mass Societies in the U.K have to make the correction.
Archbishop Arthur Roche could correct the mistake at the liturgy and theology courses at the Benedictine University of St. Anselm, Rome, which he supervises.
Andrea Grillo, the faculty at St. Anselm, and the signatories against the Latin Mass also must be informed that the old theology of the Latin Mass is not restricted to the old rite. It can also be proclaimed by Catholics at the Novus Ordo Mass in Italian.
Fr. Stefano Visintin osb, former Rector at the University of St. Anselm, has said that there are no   practical cases of people being saved with the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance who could be exceptions for traditional Benedictine extra ecclesiam nulla salus. This is common sense. We cannot meet or see someone saved in invincible ignorance (LG 16) or the baptism of desire (LG 14) etc. His statement puts an end to the New Theology based upon the False Premise (invisible people are visible in the present times).
It may be mentioned that Traditionis Custode does not say that Vatican Council II should be interpreted with a Rational premise. When Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II with the False Premise, it is not Magisterial. Instead it is irrational, heretical, schismatic and nontraditional. There is a rational option which has a continuity with the past Magisterium on EENS, Syllabus of Erros, Athanasius Creed etc.
Interpreting Vatican Council II with a False Premise is a mistake. The Holy Spirit cannot make a mistake. Traditionis Custode has made a mistake. Vatican Council II has to be interpreted with a Rational Premise. This is something obvious and not a personal opinion.
Pope Francis also has to announce that the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston referenced in Vatican Council II and placed in the Denzinger, has made the same mistake with the False Premise. Unknown cases of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance are not known examples of salvation outside the Church in 1949. They are not practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (with no exceptions) as held by Fr. Leonard Feeney.  -Lionel Andrades
DECEMBER 28, 2021
Traditionis Custode supports a Vatican Council II interpreted with a False Premise. How can it be legal in a canonical or secular sense? The Magisterium cannot make an objective mistake upon which it builds a false liberalism. : Pope Francis must correct the error
Traditionis Custode cannot be canonically legal when it interprets Vatican Council II with a False Premise( what is invisible is considered visible) which is unethical, dishonest and not Magisterial. Its conclusion is schism with the past Magisterium.While I can interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise(what is invisible is considered invisible) and there is no break with the past Magisterium and there is the hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition. Pope Francis must correct the error. He could announce that all Parish Priests and Rectors should only interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise (LG 8,14 and 16 refer to invisible cases in 2021) and the Latin Mass ( and Novus Ordo Mass) should be permitted by bishops for those who accept Vatican Council II and interpret it only with a Rational Premise( invisible cases of LG 16 etc are not not visible) and Rational Inference ( LG 16 etc are not practical exceptions for extra ecclesiam nulla salus) and Traditional Conclusion( Vatican Council II is in harmony with EENS with no known exceptions.The past ecclesiocentric ecclesiology is intact.We have traditional mission, ecumenism and inter-religious dialogue).IF IT IS NOT INSPIRED BY THE HOLY SPIRIT HOW CAN IT BE CATHOLIC AND BINDING?
When the action and conclusion are not magisterial then it cannot be Catholic. When it is unethical, dishonest and non Magisterial it cannot be binding on Catholics even if it is approved by the present two popes.
 It may be approved by the present two popes and also be legal in a political and secular sense, but it is not binding on Catholics since the Holy Spirit could not make an objective mistake by confusing what is invisible as being visible and then rejecting the past Magisterium, inspired by the Holy Spirit.
THE FOUR MARKS OF THE CHURCH (NICENE CREED) INTERPRETED WITH A FALSE PREMISE?
How can the Holy Spirit want Catholics to interpret the Creeds, Catechisms, dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (with the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance), Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX, the Oath Against Modernism, Oath of Office of a Bishop, the Four Marks of the Church ( Nicene Creed) and Vatican Council II with a False Premise ?
It would mean that at the Eucharist, at Holy Mass, there are believers who reject Tradition and those who accept it, some use a False Premise and others avoid it, so there are two interpretations of Magisterial Documents, two sets of doctrine and theology.
 ALL THE RELIGIOUS COMMUNITIES HAVE TO USE THE FALSE PREMISE TO BE LEGAL CANONICALLY.
In Civitavecchia and Lazio, Italy all the religious communities have to interpret Vatican Council II with a False Premise  to be canonically legal ?
Why does Cardinal Braz de Avez want the Franciscan Sisters of the Immaculate, to interpret Vatican Council II with a Fake Premise.
Everybody has to interpret Vatican Council II with a Fake Premise to be politically correct with the Left.
The Comitato dell Immaculata permits the bishops in the parish-church Santa Maria di Nazareth, Casalotti, Boccea, Rome, to interpet Vatican Council II with the Fake Premise instead of the Rational Premise, which would be Magisterial and also rational.
ITALIAN BISHOPS USE THE FAKE PREMISE AS THE NOVUS ORDO MASS
Bishop Gianluca Ruzza and Emiritus Bishop Gino Reali in the diocese of Porto Santa Rufina, Rome, interpret Vatican Council II and Magisterial Documents with a Fake Premise, at the Novus Ordo Mass in Italian. How can this be legal in a canonical or secular sense?
They are morally obliged to inform Christian non Christian organizations to interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise.
I repeat, Pope Francis must correct the error. He could announce that all Parish Priests and Rectors should only interpret Vatican Council II with the Rational Premise and the Latin Mass ( and Novus Ordo Mass) should be permitted by bishops for those who accept Vatican Council II and interpret it only with a Rational Premise.-Lionel Andradeshttps://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2021/12/traditionis-custode-supports-vatican.html
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