HUMANAE VITAE COULD BE REMOVED BASED UPON VATICAN COUNCIL II IRRATIONAL
Church Militant's stand-in Rome correspondent, Dr. William Mahoney does not say that Archbishop Victor Manuel Fernandez is gunning for Humanae Vitae based upon his interpretation of Vatican Council II ( irrational).
NO LIBERAL-TRADITIONALIST DIVISION IN THE CHURCH SAYS FERNANDEZ
Fernandez, elsewhere, has also said that there is no more a traditional-liberal division. He probably means, that by 2025 he will eliminate all Catholics from being members of the Church, who do not accept Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally and not rationally.The indications are there on the website of the 2025 Jubilee in Rome.
During his pontificate he made numerous apostolic journeys. The first of these was in Lampedusa where he highlighted the theme of welcoming migrants, which he too spoke about on his trip to America, first to Cuba and then to the United States of America. During this visit he gave speeches to the UN and to the Congress (the first Pontiff to speak in this institutional place) where he spoke about the environmental theme, so dear to him, and the fight against religious fanaticism of any origin, human rights and individual and civil liberties.- from the website of Jubilee 2025, Pope Francis
VATICAN COUNCIL II IRRATIONAL IS REVOLUTION IN THE CHURCH FOR THE DDF
Since the Council interpreted irrationally is accepted by CMTV correspondents in Rome, they cannot complain when Fernandez justifies his liberalism. The Council interpreted irrationally is ‘ a revolution ‘ in the Church according to Reuters and Associated Press.
VATICAN COUNCIL II RATIONAL DOES NOT SUPPORT LIBERALISM AND INNOVATION
CMTV is not telling the Vatican and the Left that contraception with condoms is not acceptable for Catholics. This teaching cannot be changed in the name of Vatican Council II (rational). For the Council then supports the past exclusivist ecclesiology and so also the traditional faith and morals of the Church. There is no theological opening for novelty.
NO PRECEDENT TO SUPPORT CONTRACEPTION BASED UPON VATICAN COUNCIL II RATIONAL
So there is no precedent in the Catholic Church to accept homosexual unions or contraception. These are still mortal sins according to the past moral theology which is supported by Vatican Council II (rational). - Lionel Andrades
Church Militant's stand-in Rome correspondent, Dr. William Mahoney, discusses the latest heterodox positions of the man who will oversee Catholic doctrine.
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JULY 3, 2023
We have a revolution in the interpretation of Vatican Council II. There is a re-interpretation. It takes the Church back to the past ecclesiology. This is a new discovery. It will come as a surprise to many. It is simple.The red is not an exception for the blue. The baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance is not an exception for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) according to the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), the Council of Florence(1442) and the Athanasius Creed. This was not known to even the traditionalists like the SSPX, CMRI,MHT, MHFM etc. They were interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally like the popes from Paul VI to Francis.
We have a revolution in the interpretation of Vatican Council II. There is a re-interpretation. It takes the Church back to the past ecclesiology. This is a new discovery. It will come as a surprise to many. It is simple.The red is not an exception for the blue. The baptism of desire (BOD) and being saved in invincible ignorance (I.I) are not exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) according to the Fourth Lateran Council (1215), the Council of Florence(1442) and the Athanasius Creed. They (BOD and I.I) are only hypothetical and theoretical cases in 2023. We cannot see or meet someone saved as such.
This was not known to even the traditionalists like the SSPX, CMRI,MHT, MHFM etc. They were interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally like the popes from Paul VI to Francis.-Lionel Andrades
JULY 3, 2023
Cardinals Grech, Hollerich and Marx and Bishop Georg Batzing and Sister Nathalie Bequart are interpreting Vatican Council II with the red being an exception for the blue. This is irrational. It is nontraditional and dishonest. For me the red is not an exception for the blue : The popes from Paul VI to Francis made a mistake on Vatican Council II .
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2023/07/cardinals-grech-hollerich-and-marx-and.html
JULY 3, 2023
We have a new discovery which is unknown to most people in the Catholic Church. The discovery is that ‘the red is not an exception for the blue’
We have a new discovery which is unknown to most people in the Catholic Church. The discovery is that ‘the red is not an exception for the blue’ i.e. the passages in Vatican Council II which refer to the baptism of desire (BOD) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I), which are marked in red, do not contradict the passages which are orthodox and support the past ecclesiocentrism and are marked in blue.
If the passages which refer to the BOD and I.I in red and the orthodox and traditional passages in blue, then it could be said that 'the red is not an exception for the blue'. Roughly it is said that the red does not contradict the blue.
The red passages are like ‘null’ or ‘zero‘ cases.
The red passages also do not contradict the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215).
So Vatican Council II has no passage which is a rupture with the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Catechisms of Trent and Pius X.
The passages in red do not contradict Feeneyite EENS. - Lionel Andrades
Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II
They are fully incorporated in the society of the Church who, possessing the Spirit of Christ accept her entire system and all the means of salvation given to her, and are united with her as part of her visible bodily structure and through her with Christ, who rules her through the Supreme Pontiff and the bishops. The bonds which bind men to the Church in a visible way are profession of faith, the sacraments, and ecclesiastical government and communion. He is not saved, however, who, though part of the body of the Church, does not persevere in charity. He remains indeed in the bosom of the Church, but, as it were, only in a "bodily" manner and not "in his heart."(12*) All the Church's children should remember that their exalted status is to be attributed not to their own merits but to the special grace of Christ. If they fail moreover to respond to that grace in thought, word and deed, not only shall they not be saved but they will be the more severely judged.(13*)
Catechumens who, moved by the Holy Spirit, seek with explicit intention to be incorporated into the Church are by that very intention joined with her. With love and solicitude Mother Church already embraces them as her own.- Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II
Unitatis Redintigratio (Decree on Ecumenism), Vatican Council II
It follows that the separated Churches(23) and Communities as such, though we believe them to be deficient in some respects, have been by no means deprived of significance and importance in the mystery of salvation. For the Spirit of Christ has not refrained from using them as means of salvation which derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Church.
Nevertheless, our separated brethren, whether considered as individuals or as Communities and Churches, are not blessed with that unity which Jesus Christ wished to bestow on all those who through Him were born again into one body, and with Him quickened to newness of life - that unity which the Holy Scriptures and the ancient Tradition of the Church proclaim. For it is only through Christ's Catholic Church, which is "the all-embracing means of salvation," that they can benefit fully from the means of salvation. We believe that Our Lord entrusted all the blessings of the New Covenant to the apostolic college alone, of which Peter is the head, in order to establish the one Body of Christ on earth to which all should be fully incorporated who belong in any way to the people of God. This people of God, though still in its members liable to sin, is ever growing in Christ during its pilgrimage on earth, and is guided by God's gentle wisdom, according to His hidden designs, until it shall happily arrive at the fullness of eternal glory in the heavenly Jerusalem.- Unitatis Redintigratio (Decree on Ecumenism), Vatican Council II
Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II
Unitatis Redintigratio (Decree on Ecumenism), Vatican Council II
Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II
Therefore, all must be converted to Him, made known by the Church's preaching, and all must be incorporated into Him by baptism and into the Church which is His body. For Christ Himself "by stressing in express language the necessity of faith and baptism (cf. Mark 16:16; John 3:5), at the same time confirmed the necessity of the Church, into which men enter by baptism, as by a door. Therefore those men cannot be saved, who though aware that God, through Jesus Christ founded the Church as something necessary, still do not wish to enter into it, or to persevere in it." Therefore though God in ways known to Himself can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel to find that faith without which it is impossible to please Him...- Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II
Catechism of the Catholic Church 846-848
"Outside the Church there is no salvation" 846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:
- Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation: the one Christ is the mediator and the way of salvation; he is present to us in his body which is the Church. He himself explicitly asserted the necessity of faith and Baptism, and thereby affirmed at the same time the necessity of the Church which men enter through Baptism as through a door. Hence they could not be saved who, knowing that the Catholic Church was founded as necessary by God through Christ, would refuse either to enter it or to remain in it.
- Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation.
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