On the Summorum Pontificum
pilgrimage website they refer briefly to Vatican Council II. We are not obliged
to interpret Vatican Council II like the Coetus International, Roberto dei
Mattei, Claude Barthe, Yves Congar, Joseph Ratzinger, Hans Kung, John Courtney
Murray, Cardinal Bea and Pope Paul VI and the
cardinals and bishops of his time in 1965.
We can interpret Vatican
Council II in harmony with Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).
Vatican Council II is in line with the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) on EENS. The
Council is traditional.
The Summorum Pontificum ‘traditionalists’
are liberals. They are creating division in the Church. The traditionalists and
liberals need to interpret Vatican Council II rationally. This is being honest.
Then there will be unity in the Catholic Church on doctrine and theology.
Now the Summorum
Pontificum procession with priests in their traditional cassocks are viewed as not
being Catholic, even tough they correctly reject Vatican Council II irrational, which
the liberals accept. They do not affirm Vatican Council II rational in harmony
with Tradition and ask the liberals to do the same.
Without Vatican Council II
interpreted rationally, the liberals are rejecting the Council and are in
schism. They are also not in harmony with the past Magisterium over the
centuries.
So the way to create unity
in the Church is to accept Vatican Council II rational along with Tradition. - Lionel Andrades
The Pilgrimage “PopulusAll the following associations of the Coetus International are interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally.This is unethical.
Summorum Pontificum” is the work of the Coetus Internationalis,
which includes 12 associations.
Coetus Internationalis Summorum Pontificum
The Pilgrimage “Populus Summorum Pontificum” is fruit of the work of the Coetus Internationalis, which includes 12 associations working together to ensure that everything goes well during the Roman pilgrimage.
The Coetus is open to all associations that may wish to contribute to the promotion and the development of this initiative.g together to ensure that everything goes well during the Roman pilgrimage.
The Coetus is open to all associations that may wish to contribute to the promotion and the development of this initiative.
CIEL
Professeur Rubén Peretó Rivas
https://site.summorum-pontificum.org/
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The Ecclesiastical Council is interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally. For me LG 8,14,16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to hypothetical cases. They are invisible cases in 2023. So they are not objective exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS), the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX. Vatican Council II does not contradict the Catechism of Pope Pius X (24Q,27Q.On other religions).The Council is in harmony with the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) and the Council of Florencde (1442) on EENS, for me. The Council is Feeneyite. It supports Feeneyite EENS.
For the Ecclesiastical Council, Vatican Council II is a rupture with Tradition. So they imply that LG 8,14 and 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to physically visible cases in 1965-2023. They are objective examples of salvation outside the Church for people saved in invincible ignorance, the baptism of desire(LG 14), seeds of the Word (AG 11), good and holy things in other religions (NA 2) and where the Catholic Church subsists outside its visible boundaries and people are saved (LG 8). For Coetus Internatioinal and the Ecclesiastical Council, there are known and visible people in the present times saved outside the Church with 'elements of sanctification and truth in other religions'(LG 8). So Vatican Council II is a break with the Fourth Lateran Council and the Council of Florence, which they do not affirm. They also reject Feeneyite EENS and support Pope Pius XII in the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office (LOHO). For the LOHO invisble cases of the BOD and I.I were visible exceptions for Feeneyite EENS. So they are Cushingite ( invisible people are visible) and I am Feeneyite ( invisible cases are invisible only).
They interpret the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms with Cushingism and I choose Feeneyism. So their conclusion is non traditional, heretical and schismatic and mine is traditional, orthodox and in harmony with the Magisterium over the centuries.
They continue in this error even after being informed. So this would be dishonest and unethical. They could be doing this for political reasons like the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican and the popes since Pius XII.-Lionel Andrades
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Since the General Assembly of 2020, the Ecclesiastical Council is chaired by Rev. Father Claude Barthe, who is assisted by 5 assistant priests.
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