Sunday, June 3, 2012

Pope Benedict on June 11 will say everyone needs the baptism of water and he will also say everyone does not need the baptism of water

The pope has to maintain the confusion because of Cardinal Richard Cushing's error.

Similarly on June 7 is the  Most Holy Body and Blood of Christ  procession in Rome. The Holy Father could  be saying everyone needs the Eucharist for salvation but there are some persons on earth in the present time, known to us, who do not need the Eucharist.

It would be meaningful if he said in principle every one needs the Eucharist, everyone  needs the baptism of water for salvation and there could be exceptions. While defacto, in fact, explicitly, in reality, everyone needs the Eucharist and the baptism of water for salvation and there are no known exceptions.
(The issue of precept and means is an in principle arguement.Finally only God wil judge who are the exceptions, who did not have the means).
For us humans on earth every one needs the Eucharist for salvation and there are no known exceptions.

If Pope Benedict does not speak out this error on the need for baptism , at the conference organised by the Rome Vicariate, June 11-13 there will be protests such as:
“ Vatican Council II says non Catholics can be saved in invincible ignorance etc!!!” Even the Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) would be surprised at the pope.The pope has to maintain the confusion because of Cardinal Richard Cushing's error. The former Archbishop of Boston along with the Jesuits in the 1940’s were sure there were known exceptions to the dogma on salvation as interpreted over the centuries by the popes and saints.

Discerning Catholics know everyone needs the baptism of water (given to adults with Catholic Faith) and there are no known exceptions.

The Conference is being organised by the Rome Vicariate which assumes those saved in invincible ignorance are known to us so every one does not need to enter the Church for salvation excepti for those who know know about Jesus and the Church.

This was the line inserted in Lumen Gentium 14,(1) which is harmless and true in itself but can cause confusion.(2) i.e the reference to those who 'know.'

We can all agree that only Jesus can judge who knows and who is in invincible ignorance.So in a sense it is irrelevant to us.It is important to note that Lumen Gentium 14 like Ad Gentes 7 tells us all need to enter the Church.

Those who ‘know’ or do not, is irrelevant to the ancient teaching on extra  ecclesiam nulla salus. Vatican Council  (LG 14;AG 7) says all need to convert into the Church with Catholic Faith and the baptism of water for salvation(to avoid Hell).There is salvation in only Jesus and within the Catholic Church.If there are those saved in invincible ignorance (and we do not know any case in 2012) it will be known only to God.It is not an exception to all needing to convert into the Church.

On the popes talk on June 11 no clarifications will be sought by the Institute of the Good Shepherd, FSSPS and other traditional communities since like the Novus  Ordo priests, they assume that there are explicitly known exceptions to AG ,LG 14 and the dogma as it was interpreted according to Tradition.-Lionel Andrades
1.
Basing itself upon Sacred Scripture and Tradition, it teaches that the Church, now sojourning on earth as an exile, is necessary for salvation. Christ, present to us in His Body, which is the Church, is the one Mediator and the unique way of salvation. In explicit terms He Himself affirmed the necessity of faith and baptism(124) and thereby affirmed also the necessity of the Church, for through baptism as through a door men enter the Church.-Lumen Gentium 14, Vatican Council II.

2.
Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by Christ, would refuse to enter or to remain in it, could not be saved.
______________________________________________

ROME VICARIATE HIT BY THE RICHARD CUSHING ERROR : Centro Della pastorale sanitaria says the baptism of water is not defacto needed for the salvation of all on earth

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2011/12/rome-vicariate-hit-by-richard-cushing.html#links

VICARIATE OFFICES FOR YOUTH AND THE SICK ARE TEACHING ERRORS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2011/12/vicariate-offices-for-youth-and-sick.html#links

ROME VICARIATE’S GESU AL CENTRO USES CHARISMATIC RENEWAL -MEDUGORJE EVANGELIZATION AND CONTRADICTS VATICAN COUNCIL II
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2011/10/rome-vicariates-gesu-al-centro-uses.html#links

No comments: