eucharistandmission: Re post : Bishop of the Diocese of Worcester has not denied that religious communities could hold the literal interepretation of the dogma alongwith implicit desire:a precedent for the SSPX and their interpretation of Vatican Council II

Tuesday, February 13, 2018

Re post : Bishop of the Diocese of Worcester has not denied that religious communities could hold the literal interepretation of the dogma alongwith implicit desire:a precedent for the SSPX and their interpretation of Vatican Council II

The Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary at the St. Benedict Center, Still River have been granted canonical status recently by Bishop Rober J.McManus which has been approved by the Vatican.

They still affirm the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and we now know that the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and invincible ignorance are not explicit and objective in 2018 and so they are not relevant or exceptions to the dogma EENS.

The SSPX could also choose a Feeneyite interpretation of EENS and Vatican Council II and demand canonical status.-L.A

JUNE 2, 2012

Bishop of the Diocese of Worcester has not denied that religious communities could hold the literal interepretation of the dogma along with implicit desire:a precedent for the SSPX and their interpretation of Vatican Council II

Can the SSPX be granted canonical status in Worcester ?

Bishop Robert J.McManus, the bishop of Worcester who has approved canonical status for Fr.Leonard Feeney’s religious communities of men and women, does not deny that religious communities and lay Catholics can hold the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and also implicit baptism of desire.(1) His office has probably also contacted the Archdiocese of Boston over this issue.

The Archdiocese of Boston of course cannot deny something which is common knowledge. i.e we do not know cases saved, in Heaven or or on earth, in invincible ignorance etc.

So the Jesuits at Boston College and the rest of the Archdiocese of Boston are permited to hold the literal interpretation of the dogma on salvation along with implicit baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance.

The problem originally arose from Boston when the Archbishop and the Jesuits assumed that the baptism of desire etc were an exception to the literal interpretation of Fr.Leonard Feeney.

The Society of St.Pius X (SSPX) also accepted this error after Vatican Council II.Throughout the Church there was a change in ecclesiology.There was no more ecclesiocentrism.The SSPX unaware of this error assumed the fault was in Vatican Council II.

Bishop Bernard Fellay has said that Jews need to accept the New Testament for salvation. However he has also indicated that there could be Jews saved in the present time, in invincible ignorance etc who are exceptions to the literal interpretation of the dogma on salvation.This is a new ecclesiology.It’s also a contradiction of Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II and extra ecclesiam nulla salus.It would mean Vatican Council II contradicts itself (LG 16/AG 7) and also the defined dogma, according to the SSPX bishops and priests.

The bishops of Boston and Worcester indicate that one can hold the literal centuries old interpretation of the dogma. So it is time for the SSPX to do likewise.Vatican Council II is a traditional Council with traditional values.

Priests from the SSPX can call up the offices in these two dioceses and ask basic questions.

Ask them if the Letter of the Holy Office 1949 to the Archbishop of Boston supported Fr.Leonard Feeney on doctrine when it referred to ‘the dogma’, the ‘infallible statement’.Read the text of the dogma to them. http://catholicism.org/ad-rem-no-186.html

Ask them if they know anyone on earth saved with the baptism of desire, invincible ignorance, a good conscience, seeds of the Word etc.

Ask them if they know any explicit exception in Vatican Council II to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.

So does Vatican Council II (AG 7) support Fr. Leonard Feeney and extra ecclesiam nulla salus?

Do they believe then that Vatican Council II affirms the traditional teaching on other religions and non Catholic-Christian churches and communities ?

So can the SSPX affirm Vatican Council II, the SSPX's present values on other religions etc and also the literal interpretation of extra ecclesiam nulla salus.?

Could they be granted canonical status just like the communities of Fr. Leonard Feeney in the diocese of Worcester ?- Lionel Andrades
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http://www.saintbenedict.com/theorder/about-order.html

Videos of a religious community in Worcester which holds the literal interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus without explicit baptism of desire.