Saturday, February 24, 2018

The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF),Vatican has no objections if all Catholic religious communities affirm Vatican Council II without the irrational premise : information exclusively on Lionel's Blog




The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith(CDF),Vatican has no objections if all Catholic religious communities affirm Vatican Council II without the irrational premise.To know more about this interpretation of Vatican Council II which is in harmony with the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Syllabus of Errors, check this blog Eucharist and Mission.It is exclusively explained in only Lionel's Blog.




They do not deny that all religious communities can affirm the dogma extra ecclesam nulla salus (without the premise) and Vatican Council II ( without the premise).There is a Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) and a Vatican Council II(Cushingite) depending upon the use or non use of the invisible -people- are - visible premise.


They do not deny reports which state that the Vatican (CDF/Ecclesia Dei) has no objections if the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX) and all religious communities ( Franciscans, Dominicans, Carmelites etc) affirm Vatican Council II (without the premise) and reject Vatican Council II( with the premise).







It was reported yesterday on Lionel's Blog that Cardinal Luiz Ladaria s.j is in schism with the past Magisterium.


For him Vatican Council II is a rupture with extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) and the past ecclesiology.He uses an irrational premise to create this break with the past. I Lionel, avoid this premise. So for me Vatican Council II is not a rupture with the Syllabus of Errors .




Cardinal Ladaria, Cardinal Mueller and Pope Benedict rejected the Syllabus of Errors. They did not celebrate its 170 anniversay a few years back. For them the Council was 'a development'.Since there is known salvation outside the Church for them, hypothetical cases are examples of this known salvation, this development of a dogma.

Outside the Church there can be no known salvation for me. Only God can know if there is an exception to the norm.The norm for salvation is being a member of the Catholic Church(Cantate Domino, Council of Florence 1441). Baptism of desire(BOD),baptism of blood (BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) are not the norm.Neither can they be known  as exceptions.
The present Magisterium of ecclesiastics are using Vatican Council II to create a schism with the past popes and they act as if there is only one interpretation of the Council.I know of another one.It is rational, traditional and non heretical.
Cardinal Luiz Ladaria interprets the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance as a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).For me there is no rupture.
Pope Benedict confirmed this schism in March 2016(Avvenire) when he said that EENS is no more like it was for the missionaries in the 16th century.He said that there was a development with Vatican Council II. He meant that he would not interpret Vatican Council II like me and so then there would not be a rupture with the past.This was the developent.He also calls the dogma EENS, defined by three Church Councils an 'aphorism'(CCC 846).he wanted a rupture.
So with this official schism he says that the problem with the SSPX is doctrinal. They have to interpret Vatican Council II like him and not me . They have to choose heresy and schism for canonical recognition.
The SSPX could affirm Vatican Council II and EENS like me i.e treat hypothetical cases as just being hypothetical, but this is not being publically asked of them by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.


Since BOD, BOB and I.I are exceptions to EENS the inference by Cardinal Ladaris is  that these are known people saved outside the Church. Otherwise how could there be exceptions.Pope Benedict, Cardinal Ladaria and Cardinal Muller imply that these are visible and known people who are examples of non Catholics saved outside the Church. Since they are known cases saved without the baptism of water outside the Church, this new teaching contradicts the Nicene Creed.
NICENE CREED CONTRADICTED
In the Creed we say, 'I believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins'.It is the baptism of water. Now the understanding is 'I believe in three or more baptisms, they are desire, blood and invincible ignorance and they exclude the baptism of water in the Catholic Church'. It is the Holy Spirit, mentioned in the Nicene Creed which is supposed to have taught this irrationality according to the present Magisterium.
So when we say in the Nicene Creed I believe in the Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church it means , the Catholic Church with the new ecclesiology.This new ecclesiology is based on invisible for us BOD, BOB and I.I being a visible rupture with the past exclusivist ecclesiology. In the past ecclesiology BOD, BOB and I.I were considered hypothetical cases. Not any more.
WITH THE FALSE PREMISE THERE IS NO ECUMENISM OF RETURN
Since there is known salvation outside the Church, for all these liberals, who would be approved by ecclesiastical Masonry, Cardinal Marx gives the Eucharist to Protestants and Pope Francis says Protestants are redeemed.
WITH THE IRRATIONAL PREMISE POPE INTERPRETS VATICAN COUNCIL II
With the use of an irrational premise Pope Francis interprets Vatican Council II as a rupture with the past ecclesiology of the Church. The past ecclesiology would be triumphalism for him and the Masons.This is schism, official schism, pontifical schism.There is a choice, a hermeneutic of continuity but it is being rejected.A break from the past is intentionally being sought and Cardinal Cupich calls it a paradigm shift coming from Vatican Council II.He means Vatican Council II as interpreted by Pope Benedict and Cardinal Ladaria and not me.

So Cardinal Marx says there is no more an ecumenism of return for Protestants in Germany.
I affirm the Syllabus of Errors and the ecumenism of return based on the past ecclesiology of the Church which is not contradicted by Vatican Council II interpreted without the false premise.
I refuse to go into schism by interpreting magisterial documents with the invisible- people- are- visible offical linr, which creates a rupture with the past popes and the Syllabus of Errors on ecumenism, non Christian religions etc.

The Vatican (CDF/Ecclesia Dei) has no objection. They do not deny that there can be two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one with the irrational premise and the other without it.
They do not deny that all religious communities can affirm the dogma extra ecclesam nulla salus(without the premise) and Vatican Council II ( without the premise).There is a Vatican Council II( Feeneyite) and a Vatican Council II(Cushingite) depending upon the use or non use of the invisible people are visible premise.
They do not deny reports which state that the Vatican (CDF/Ecclesia Dei) has no objections if the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX) and all religious communities ( Franciscans, Dominicans, Carmelites etc) affirm Vatican Council II (without the premise) and reject Vatican Council II( with the premise).
Superiors of Religious communities who want more information can personally contact me or e-mail me at lionelandrades10@gmail.com
-Lionel Andrades


NOVEMBER 21, 2017

When there is no evidence of the existence of any excepton, then Vatican Council II does not contradict EENS, the Nicene Creed, the past ecclesiology and the Syllabus of Errors.It is in harmony with Tradition
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/when-there-is-no-evidence-of-existence.html

NOVEMBER 21, 2017

Vatican Council II(Feeneyite) in harmony with EENS( Feeneyite)
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/vatican-council-iifeeneyite-in-harmony.html





March 17, 2017
The practical result now is that Vatican Council II can be interpreted as a rupture or a continuity with the past, depending upon the use of the irrational premise; invisible cases are visible or not visible in 2017.

DECEMBER 4, 2017

Be aware of the crude interpretation of Vatican Council II done by Christopher Ferrara, Roberto dei Mattei, Atila Guimares and others
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/12/be-aware-of-crude-interpretation-of.html

NOVEMBER 16, 2017

SSPX must not waste time.Affirm Vatican Council II (premise-free) : appeal to Card.Ladaria to do the same
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/11/sspx-must-stop-wasting-time-and-affirm.html


March 15, 2017
A St. Emerentina of the past cannot be an exception to the dogma EENS in 2017. This is faulty reasoning

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/a-st-emerentina-of-past-cannot-be.html

March 15, 2017
And if someone says she is in Heaven without the baptism of water then who is this person in the Church who has said this? Who gave him permission? Is he recognised by the Church?http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/and-if-someone-says-she-is-in-
heaven.html




March 15, 2017
All proclaimed saints are saints period. Who can say that they are saints without the baptism of water in the Catholic Church?

March 15, 2017
You have said that there is no one in the past who can physically see or know a BOD case.So if there is no known case in the past or the future where is the exception to the dogma EENS? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/you-have-said-that-there-is-no-one-in.html
OCTOBER 20, 2017
No denial from Archbishop Guido Pozzo : he uses an irrational premise to reject the past exclusivist ecclesiology, the Syllabus of Errors and Vatican Council II(premise-free) http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/no-denial-from-archbishop-guido-pozzo.html

OCTOBER 15, 2017
We are in the same Church but the Polish bishops interpret the Nicene Creed, EENS, Vatican Council II and the Catechism differently
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/we-are-in-same-church-but-polish.html

OCTOBER 14, 2017

We are in the same Church but the two popes and I interpret the Nicene Creed, EENS, Vatican Council II and the Catechism differently
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/we-are-in-same-church-but-two-popes-and.html

SEPTEMBER 22, 2017

If any one says that invisible people are visible in general at the same time on earth with reference to EENS he has contradicted the Principle of Non Contradiction : error of popes from Pius XII to Francis
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/09/if-any-one-says-that-invisible-people.html

SEPTEMBER 14, 2017
Lay Catholics inform your Bishop and Parish Priest that you do not know of any BOD, BOB and I.I case in 2017 : so you affirm the traditional interpretation of the dogma EENS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/09/lay-catholics-inform-your-bishop-and.html

SEPTEMBER 11, 2017

How can Mystici Corporis and the Catechisms of Trent and Pius X have exceptions to the Feeneyite interpretation of the dogma EENS when BOD, BOB and I.I are invisible cases ? : traditionalists still supporting liberal theologians.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/09/how-can-mystici-corporis-and-catechisms.html

SEPTEMBER 8, 2017

The Catholic Church teaches that all non Catholics are oriented to Hell, with no known exceptions, unless they become members of the Church, this is not a personal opinion only
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/09/the-catholic-church-teaches-that-all.html

SEPTEMBER 5, 2017

Wikipedia's new entry on Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus avoids saying invisible for us BOD, BOB and I.I are not relevant or exceptions to EENS
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/09/wikipedias-new-entry-on-extra-ecclesiam.html

AUGUST 27, 2017

Appeal to Pope Francis to allow Catholics to interpret Vatican Council II and EENS without the irrational premise
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/08/appeal-to-pope-francis-to-allow.html

AUGUST 25, 2017

SSPX can ask for canonical status rejecting Vatican Council II ( Cushingite) and accepting Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) : this is not important ?
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/08/sspx-can-ask-for-canonical-status.html

AUGUST 9, 2017

Professors of philosophy agree invisible people cannot be visible exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. : indicate for me magisterium made a mistake
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/08/catholic-professors-of-philosophy-agree.html

AUGUST 6, 2017

Society of St.Pius X must revive Reconciliation Talks with the Vatican : VC II (Feeneyite) is a breakthrough
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/08/society-of-stpius-x-sspx-must-revive.html


March 27, 2017
I am not denying the baptism of desire.Common sense tells us it is invisible in 2017 and the dogma indicates it would be followed with the baptism of water for salvation.


March 27, 2017
Council of Trent can be interpreted with Feeneyism or Cushingism

March 27, 2017
Long lists of Baptism of Desire and Blood do not mention any exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus




March 27, 2017
Long lists of Baptism of Desire and Blood do not mention any exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus -2

March 26, 2017
For me BOD,BOB and I.I are invisible. This is how it was understood over the centuries.http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/03/for-me-bodbob-and-ii-are-invisible-for.html


March 26, 2017
The ordinary way of salvation is the baptism of water in the Catholic Church; faith and baptism for adults. The general way of salvation is not BOD, BOB and I.I or having a good conscience

March 22, 2017
The Angelicum University does not come to Vatican Council II knowing that the baptism of desire cannot be an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus : since then the interpretation of the Council changes

March 21, 2017
Vatican Council II has a continuity with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus but the Angelicum hides this Catholic teaching



 

FEBRUARY 23, 2017

If your Parish Priest uses Cushingism please correct him

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/02/if-your-parish-priest-uses-cushingism.html



























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