Would Ann Barnhardt be able to say that the SSPX bishops and Archbishop Lefebvre made an objective mistake?

If someone asked Ann Barnhardt is she saw someone in 2018 saved with the baptism of desire, she would answer no.This is something obvious.

If they asked her if it was possible to see someone saved in 1960-1965 with the baptism of desire again she would answer in the negative. Since only God would know if a baptism of desire case existed.We humans cannot see people saved.

Similarly if she was asked if there was a known case of the baptism of desire at the time of the Fr. Leonard Feeney controversy, she would know that we human beings cannot see someone in Heaven saved as such.

And what about at the time of St.Emerentiana ? Could any one have seen a baptism of desire or baptism of blood case in real life? Could they see someone saved in Heaven as such? Of course not! Physically it was not possible she would agree.

So did Archbishop Lefebvre make a mistake to assume that the baptism of desire was an exception to EENS? In other words there were known cases of the baptism of desire, for him, for there to be an exception to the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS.He inferred that there were visible and known people saved outside the Church with the baptism of desire.

Did Archbishop Lefebvre make a mistake?

Did the SSPX bishops make a mistake?

On the SSPX official website see Feeneyism. They consider the baptism of desire an exception to EENS. They support Pope Pius XII and the Letter of the Holy Office 1949. 

Would Ann Barnhardt answer? Would she be able to say that the SSPX bishops and Archbishop Lefebvre made an objective mistake?

The SSPX is still selling a book by Fr.Francois Laisney, 'Is Feeneyism Catholic'.He assumes that the baptism of desire is an exception to EENS. The book is compulsory reading for SSPX seminarians.

Now if Ann agreed that there are no known cases of the baptism of desire(LG 14) and no known cases of being saved in invincible ignorance(LG 16) and no known cases of GS 22, UR 3,NA 2, LG 8 etc, all of them being hypothetical and theoretical, then would she be able to say that there is nothing in Vatican Council II to contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS?

Vatican Council II does not contradict the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church known to the Jesuits in the Middle Ages?-Lionel Andrades

FEBRUARY 2, 2018

So when I am sent these long lists of potential baptism of desire and baptism of blood references they are meaningless. Since for me they never ever were an exception to EENS. The magisterium made a mistake.

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/so-when-i-am-sent-these-long-lists-of.html

FEBRUARY 2, 2018

So why are you sending me these references to the BOD? What has it to do with Feeneyite EENS?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/so-why-are-you-sending-me-these.html

FEBRUARY 2, 2018

Repost : Hilary White and Massimo Faggioli interpret the Catechism, Vatican Council II and Letter of the Holy Office with hypothetical cases not being hypothetical : so there is a rupture with Tradition (with graphics)

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/hilary-white-and-massimo-faggioli.html

FEBRUARY 1, 2018

Ann Barnhardt needs to study Feeneyism acc

ording to Lionel Andrades.It is different from Feeneyism according to Wikipedia and the SSPX

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/02/ann-barnhardt-needs-to-study-feeneyism.html

JANUARY 31, 2018

There is no empirical evidence to suggest St Emerentiana is in Heaven without the baptism of water and so is an exception to EENS and the Nicene Creed  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/there-is-no-empirical-evidence-to.html
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JANUARY 27, 2018

What is Feeneyism? (Graphics)

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/what-is-feeneyism.html

JANUARY 27, 2018

What is Cushingism ?(Graphics)

ttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/what-is-cushingism-graphics.html

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http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/you-decide.html

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ANUARY 30, 2018

So it all starts from St. Emerentiana ...

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/so-it-all-starts-from-st-emerentiana.html

ANUARY 30, 2018

The way you look at St. Emerentiana decides how you interpret Vatican Council II  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/the-way-you-look-at-st-emerentiana.html

St.Emerentiana a possibility - how is she relevant to extra ecclesiam nulla salus?http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/stemerentiana-possibility-how-is-she.html
JANUARY 25, 2018


Fr.Feeney did not suggest like Ann Barnhardt that invisible cases of the baptism of desire were visible exceptions to the dogma EENS  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/frfeeney-did-not-suggest-like-ann.html

Ann Barnhardt still uses Cushingite theology like the other traditionalists  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/ann-barnhardt-still-uses-cushingite.html

JANUARY 24, 2018

Ann Barnhardt still uses Cushingite theology like the other traditionalists

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/ann-barnhardt-still-uses-cushingite.html

OCTOBER 25, 2017

Louie Verrecchio, Ann Barnhardt, David Domet, the two popes and the CDF Prefect are in heresy : correction and recantation of error needed http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/10/louie-verrecchio-ann-barnhardt-david.html

 SEPTEMBER 19, 2017

Ann Barnhardt, Chris Ferrara's reasoning seem rational but their premises and so inferences are wrong

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/09/ann-barnhardt-chris-ferraras-reasoning.html

AUGUST 2, 2017

Ann Barnhardt and Eric Gajiewski(Trad Cat Knight) have no denial : they use a false premise to interpret Vatican Council II even when they can avoid it

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/08/ann-barnhardt-and-eric-gajiewskitrad.html

Ann Barnhardt is a Catholic even though she violates the Principle of Non Contradiction http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/06/ann-barnhardt-is-catholic-even-though.html

DECEMBER 18, 2015

Ann Barnhardt interprets magisterial documents with Cushingism

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2015/12/ann-barnhardt-is-using-cushingism-to.html

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