MARCH 9, 2018
Cardinal Luiz Ladaria s.j made a mistake on March 1,2018 at the Press Conference on Placuito Deo and there is no denial from the Vatican : his error is objective and obvious.
Cardinal Luiz Ladaria s.j made a mistake on March 1,2018 at the Press Conference onPlacuit Deo and there is no denial from the Vatican.No one from the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith defends him. Since his error is objective and obvious. It was known a long time ago but he persists since there is no opposition.
Lumen Gentium 8 is not an exception to the old teaching on the Catholic Church having the superiority and exclusiveness in salvation.
I repeat, Lumen Gentium 8 refers to hypothetical cases and so are not exceptions to all needing to be incorporated in the Catholic Church in 2018 as members for salvation.
Lumen Gentium 8 refers to theoretical cases, speculative possibilities which can be only be known to God. So Lumen Gentium 8 never ever was relevant to 'the strict interpretation' of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
Cardinal Ladaria should not have mentioned Lumen Gentium 8 when the lady journalist from the Associated Press asked him about the past exclusivist understanding of salvation and the Church having the fullness of truth.
The Prefect of the CDF made a mistake and the Vatican's public relations director ended the Press Conference quickly.
Objectively there can be no exceptions to EENS.Since practical exceptions to EENS if they existed could only be known to God.LG 8,LG 16,LG 14,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are not exceptions or relevant to EENS for me.
Now all Catholics, especially the religious communities and lay movements, can proclaim the Gospel and have Mission programs knowing that all Protestants, Pentecostals and Orthodox Christians need to enter the Catholic Church to avoid Hell( for salvation).It is the same for all Jews and Muslims and other non Christians.
The majority of people on earth are on the way to Hell since they without faith and baptism(Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II).Vatican Council II says all need faith and baptism for salvation.All.
Vatican Council II does not mention any exceptions.LG 8, LG 16 ,LG 14 etc are not exceptions.This was the mistake of Cardinal Ladaria on March 1, 2018 and also in two theological papers of the International Theological Commission ( Christianity and the World Religions (1997), The Hope of Salvation for Infants who die without being baptised, 2007).
So according to Vatican Council II (interpreted rationally) we are back to the old ecclesiology of the Church.The teachings of the Church before and after Vatican Council II are now the same.
I repeat, Lumen Gentium 8 refers to hypothetical cases and so are not exceptions to all needing to be incorporated in the Catholic Church in 2018 as members for salvation.
Lumen Gentium 8 refers to theoretical cases, speculative possibilities which can be only be known to God. So Lumen Gentium 8 never ever was relevant to 'the strict interpretation' of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
Cardinal Ladaria should not have mentioned Lumen Gentium 8 when the lady journalist from the Associated Press asked him about the past exclusivist understanding of salvation and the Church having the fullness of truth.
The Prefect of the CDF made a mistake and the Vatican's public relations director ended the Press Conference quickly.
Objectively there can be no exceptions to EENS.Since practical exceptions to EENS if they existed could only be known to God.LG 8,LG 16,LG 14,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are not exceptions or relevant to EENS for me.
Now all Catholics, especially the religious communities and lay movements, can proclaim the Gospel and have Mission programs knowing that all Protestants, Pentecostals and Orthodox Christians need to enter the Catholic Church to avoid Hell( for salvation).It is the same for all Jews and Muslims and other non Christians.
The majority of people on earth are on the way to Hell since they without faith and baptism(Ad Gentes 7,Vatican Council II).Vatican Council II says all need faith and baptism for salvation.All.
Vatican Council II does not mention any exceptions.LG 8, LG 16 ,LG 14 etc are not exceptions.This was the mistake of Cardinal Ladaria on March 1, 2018 and also in two theological papers of the International Theological Commission ( Christianity and the World Religions (1997), The Hope of Salvation for Infants who die without being baptised, 2007).
So according to Vatican Council II (interpreted rationally) we are back to the old ecclesiology of the Church.The teachings of the Church before and after Vatican Council II are now the same.
Cardinal Ladaria and Pope Francis must be asked to confirm the obvious:-
1.Invisible cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are not visible exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus in 2018?
2.Invisible for us cases of LG 8, LG 16, LG 14, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are not visible exceptions to EENS in 2018 ?
3.There are no practical exceptions to EENS.We cannot meet or see someone in the present times (2018) who is saved outside the Catholic Church?
1.Invisible cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved in invincible ignorance are not visible exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus in 2018?
2.Invisible for us cases of LG 8, LG 16, LG 14, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc are not visible exceptions to EENS in 2018 ?
3.There are no practical exceptions to EENS.We cannot meet or see someone in the present times (2018) who is saved outside the Catholic Church?
4.Since Lumen Gentium 8 is an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus for Cardinal Ladaria he implies that LG 9 refers to known people saved outside the Church? Invisible people are visible for him?
5.Cardinal Ladaria made a doctrinal error on March 1,2018 at the Press Conference on Placuit Deo when in response to a question from a journalist he suggested Lumen Gentium 8 was an exception to the old exclusvist ecclesiology ?.
5.Cardinal Ladaria made a doctrinal error on March 1,2018 at the Press Conference on Placuit Deo when in response to a question from a journalist he suggested Lumen Gentium 8 was an exception to the old exclusvist ecclesiology ?.
-Lionel Andrades
MARCH 11, 2018
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