Sunday, March 11, 2018

Repost :This is what Cardinal Ladaria had been hiding all these years. Now it has been found out. Catholics know about it and more will know about it over time.

MARCH 9, 2018


This is what Cardinal Ladaria had been hiding all these years. Now it has been found out. Catholics know about it and more will know about it over time.

If we avoid the mistake Cardinal Ladaria made at the Press Conference then the traditionalists no more have a problem with Vatican Council II.
They can affirm Vatican Council II and the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church. This is what Cardinal Ladaria had been hiding all these years.
Now it has been found out. Catholics know about it and more will know about it over time.
We can again have Catholic Mission with sound doctrine as it was known over the centuries.This would be the end, theologically, of the New Ecumenism, New Ecclesiology, New Theology and New Evangelisation.
All this 'new stuff', innovation in the Church  depended upon Catholics accepting Lumen Gentium 8 as an exception to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. LG 8 had to be seen as referring to salvation outside the Church. Now we know this is false.
It was false when Cardinal Ladaria at the Press Conference, (see video above) suggested that there were known cases of people saved with 'elements of sanctification and truth'(LG 8) and known people saved outside the Church where the true Catholic Church subsists(LG 8),as if he could know. Since there were known cases of people saved outside the Church for him he told the lady journalist that the Church no more considers itself superior and exclusive on salvation.
But his inference was based on non existing cases.There are no physically seen and personally known cases of non Catholics saved outside the Church.
Zero cases of something are not exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus said John Martignoni, the U.S Catholic apologist. Fr. Stefano Visintin osb, the present Rector of the Pontifical University of St. Anselm Rome, agrees with Martignoni. They are observing what is obvious for people in general.

We cannot see people who are saved and now in Heaven.So we cannot see cases of the baptism of desire etc.Then we cannot see or meet them they cannot be practical exceptions to EENS. They never were.
 So there cannot be a new ecumenism any more.

 We cannot have joint evangelisation programs with the Protestants, as is being done in Rome.Since there is no known Anonymous Christian for us.

 Even if theoretically someone was saved in a Protestant religion, he would not be known to anyone on earth. So this would not be an exception to the old ecclesiology based on extra ecclesiam nulla salus.
The New Theology said that there was salvation outside the Church since invisible cases of the baptism of desire, baptism of blood and being saved were visible, seen in the flesh cases, of non Catholics saved outside the Church.This is the irrationality and deception Pope Benedict and Cardinal Ladaria were promoting in the Church.
There is no denial or confirmation coming from the Vatican. 
I have also been asking Catholic journalists if Lumen Gentium 8 refers to a hypothetical or real, known person in 2018 saved outside the Church for them. I want them to ask Cardinal Ladaria or the cardinals and bishops at Ecclesia Dei this question.-Lionel Andrades

 MARCH 9, 2018

Cardinal Luiz Ladaria s.j made a mistake on March 1,2018 at the Press Conference on Placuito Deo and there is no denial from the Vatican : his error is objective and obvious.
http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/03/cardinal-luiz-ladaria-sj-made-mistake.html

MARCH 11, 2018


When you meet Cardinal Luiz Ladaria tell him that it is being said that there are two interpretations of Vatican Council II and yours is the irrational one (Graphics) http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/03/when-you-meet-cardinal-luiz-ladaria.html


 MARCH 11, 2018



Cardinal Ladaria and Archbishop Augustine Di Noia do not read Vatican Council II with the for and neutral to EENS method.They use the for and against EENS method : CDF's Placuit Deo emerges vague and confusing

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/03/cardinal-ladaria-and-archbishop.html


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