The Italian Government must note that all the cardinals are interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally. Also all the schools, colleges, universities and seminaries are doing the same.

 

The Italian Government must note that all the cardinals are interpreting Vatican Council II irrationally. Also all the schools, colleges, universities and seminaries are doing the same. They interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc, in Vatican Council II, as being physically visible examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church, in 1965-2023.Then they project these ‘physically visible cases, as being practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Catechisms of Pope Pius X and Trent. There is a break with the past ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church. Even the Catechism of Pope John Paul II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church is interpreted irrationally (845, 846, 1257,847,848 etc).

This mistake at the Vatican and Italian Embassies can be corrected by interpreting LG 8, 14, 16 etc, rationally. There is a return to Tradition in the Catholic Church.

The media must stop calling those who attend the Latin Mass, traditionalists. Since when Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally, even those who go for Mass in the vernacular, become traditionalists.

The Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) and the sedevacantist communities like CMRI, MHT etc, produce division in the Church when they interpret Vatican Council II irrationally. The traditionalist-liberal division ends when the Council interpreted rationally. There is no more theological liberalism. Innovation in faith and morals can no more be rationalized. Since the Council can no more be cited to support liberalism? LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, do not contradict the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, of the Fourth Lateran Council (1215). The Council supports Feeneyite EENS. - Lionel Andrades

JUNE 29, 2023

The Italian Government must ask the Dept. of Education, Italy and the Congregation for Education, Vatican to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and honestly

 

The Italian Government must ask the Department of Education, Italy and the Congregation for Education, Vatican to only interpret Vatican Council II rationally and so honestly. All the universities, seminaries, colleges and schools in Italy must only interpret Vatican Council II rationally, this must be obligatory.

All the pontifical universities and also the still-closed Terra Santa seminary of the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate in Casalotti, Boccea, Rome, must only interpret Vatican Council II rationally and so ethically.

They must interpret LG 8, 14, 16, UR3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II as referring to hypothetical and physically invisible cases in 1965-2023.

They must not project these theoretical cases of LG 8, 14, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc as being practical exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). So Vatican Council II interpreted rationally, with LG 8 etc referring to only speculative cases does not contradict the dogma EENS defined by the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) and the Council of Florence (1442). Vatican Council II has a continuity with Tradition.The Council has a continuity with the Athanasius Creed, the Catechisms of Trent and Pope Pius X and the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX. There is no break with the popes and saints in the historical Catholic Church in Italy. The Church today, with Vatican Council II, rational, has returned to the old understanding of Church, of the Papal States. -Lionel Andrades

Lionel Andrades

Catholic layman in Rome,

 Writer on the discovery of the two

interpretations of the Second Vatican Council, one rational and the other irrational.

One is interpreted with a false premise and

the other without it. One is Magisterial and  and the other, the common one, is non-Magisterial. An irrational interpretation cannot be Magisterial.

One is ethical and the other is unethical.

It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms.There cannot be two interpretations. This is a discovery.

Why should Catholics choose an irrational

 version which  is heretical, non-traditional,

and schismatic, when there is a rational

option which is traditional? Why must the

Italian government of Georgia Melloni be

dishonest? The popes, cardinals and bishops

choose the wrong interpretation. It is

irrational and so it is not Catholic.

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