The Lega Salvini and other conservative political parties in Italy do not affirm the Catholic Faith on Vatican Council II. They want to be politically correct with the Left. Even the Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) and the Vatican do not proclaim Vatican Council II interpreted rationally

 

The Lega Salvini and other conservative political parties in Italy do not affirm the Catholic Faith on Vatican Council II. They want to be politically correct with the Left. Precisely, they  avoid the Anti Semitic charge and excommunication by the Vatican. The Society of St. Pius X (SSPX) and the Vatican do not affirm Vatican Council II interpreted rationally i.e. with invisible cases just being invisible. Instead , physically invisible cases cited in Lumen Gentium 16 ( being saved in invincible ignorance) refer to a physically invisible case in 1965-2024. This is irrational. It is suggested that there are defacto exceptions for the dogma EENS ; the Feeneyite version, in Lumen Gentium 16.

SALVINI AT LATIN MASS

Matteo Salvini goes for the Latin Mass offered by the Society of St. Pius X(SSPX). The SSPX  who does not interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, and GS 22 etc as being physically invisible cases in 1965 -2024. Since then there would be no practical exceptions; no exceptions, in the Council-text for the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS).They would be accused of being Feeneyite. So they want exceptions for EENS.

So they interpret LG 8,14,1,5,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 as being physically visible examples of salvation outside the Catholic Church and so objective exceptions for the Athanasius Creed, the ecclesiocentrism of the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Catechism of Pope Pius X ( 24Q,27Q).

ROBERTO FIORE

Similarly Roberto Forte of the political party Forza Nuova attends the SSPX Mass in Rome. But he  does not affirm Vatican Council II rationally and neither do the SSPX priests from District Albano, Italy. The priests who offer the Latin Mass in Rome do not want to comment on this issue.

Fabrizio Lastei and the Militia Christi in Rome will not affirm the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus with no visible exceptions mentioned in Vatican Council II.Since then he would come under the radar of the political Left .He would be accused of being Anti Semitic etc. 

MILITIA CHRISTI

So the Militia Christi, traditionalists, who go for the Latin Mass and support the SSPX do not proclaim the Catholic Faith in public.It was the same with the former Spiritual Director of the Militia Christi, the late Mons. Ignacio Barreiro.

Even Catholic politicians who attend Mass in Italian do not proclaim the dogma EENS nor Vatican Council II, interpreted rationally.

SSPX CANADA SUPERIOR IN  DENIAL

Objectively the SSPX and those who go for the Novus Ordo Mass deny the Catholic Faith. This is the crisis that the SSPX does not want to talk about it. It is not spoken about by Fr.David Sherry, the District Superior of Canada,  in this video below.

LEFEBVRE DID NOT KNOW

 Even Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre did not interpret Vatican Council II, rationally, and so expose the objective mistake in the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston, issued by Pope Pius XII.

I have tried to speak to the SSPX priest  in Rome . He does not want to proclaim the Catholic Faith on Vatican Council II interpreted rationally. Like the SSPX bishops and priests he interprets the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms irrationally to reject the dogma EENS according to the Church Councils (1215 etc) which did not mention any exceptions. 

SSPX POLITICAL POSITION ON VATICAN COUNCIL II

This is a kind of political position of the SSPX on Vatican. They are not talking about it. They 'do not hold fast to what was beleived by all Catholics over all time'.

Part of the crisis in the Church is that the traditionalists have become modernists like those many Catholics who attend the Novus Ordo Mass. Many prominent Catholic politicians are in this category. - Lionel Andrades

APRIL 5, 2024

There no more is modernism when we interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as being only hypothetical cases. They are invisible cases in 1965-2024. So they do not contradict the past exclusivist ecclesiology. We can affirm Vatican Council II (rational) and the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Athanasius Creed. This is irrelevant of the popes. Doctrine stays constant. There no more is modernism. There no more is a development of doctrine based upon Vatican Council II.

The modernism was there when Vatican Council II is interpreted irrationally and Pope Paul VI did not correct it. The modernism comes from the 1949 Letter of the Holy Office to the Archbishop of Boston and Pope Pius XII and Cardinal Alfredo Ottaviani, let it pass.

But there is no more modernism when we interpret LG 8, 14, 15, 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, as being only hypothetical cases. They are invisible cases in 1965-2024. So they do not contradict the past exclusivist ecclesiology. We can affirm Vatican Council II (rational) and the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX and the Athanasius Creed. This is irrelevant of the popes. Doctrine stays constant. There no more is modernism. There no more is a development of doctrine based upon Vatican Council II.  - Lionel Andrades

JANUARY 20, 2017

Matteo Salvini and the Lega Nord members need to affirm Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) and ask the two popes and the Congregation for the Doctrrine of the Faith to do the same.

Members of the Lega Nord politial party in Italy do not know that there was a theological mistake made in the Catholic Church in 1949 and it has been accepted by the two popes.1 It has changed Catholic doctrine which is now accepted also by the Lega Nord and other political parties in Italy.It is leftist-doctine and it is supported unkowingly by Matteo Salvini the Lega Nord leader.2

The mistake was repeated in 1960-1965 and since then there has been no correction.So now the only interpretation of Vatican Council II which exists is Vatican Council II (Cushingite).

Cardinal Dionigi Tettamanzi for example will only support Vatican Council II Cushingite, so also Monsignor Galantino.

They will not affirm Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) which avoids the theological error, the new theology.Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) does not consider hypothetical cases as not being hypothetical.So there is no irrational premise used to make Vatican Council II a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to the 16th century missionaries.
 

The Lega Nord members are all interpreting Vatican Council II as a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to St. Robert Bellarnine, St. Francis Xavier, St. Igantius of Loyola and the popes of that time.

Matteo Salvini and the  Lega Nord members need to affirm Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) and ask the two popes and the Congregation for the Doctrrine of the Faith to do the same.

Vatican Council II Cushingite is irrational, non traditional and heretical.It is an innovation in the Church.-Lionel Andrades

 

 

 1

January 19, 2017
Matteo Salvini ask Lega Nord members to affirm Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) :stop the deception of the Vatican http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/01/matteo-salvini-ask-lega-nord-members-to.html

2

What is Vatican Council II (Cushingite) ? What is the difference between Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) and Vatican Council II (Cushingite) ?  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/01/what-is-vatican-council-ii-cushingite.html 

 

January 19, 2017

WHAT IS VATICAN COUNCIL II FEENEYITE? http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/01/what-is-vatican-council-ii-feeneyite.html 

SATURDAY, DECEMBER 21, 2019

This is a political issue in Italy, which Salvini and Meloni must bring up before their political opponents, their political parties, the judiciary, ecclesiastics and Italians in general

 

Salvini needs to talk about exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.He would be opening up a new political front for his secular and religious opponents.It's a long time since he held up a rosary at a political meeting. I miss it.

With that rosary he was saying Italy is still Catholic as the invasion continues.

So I  miss seeing that rosary in Matteo's hand.

We now need to hear Catholic theology at the Lega  political meetings.

Please talk about Vatican Council II being in harmony with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).

Talk about the difference between Vatican Council II, Feeneyite and Vatican Council II, Cushingite.

Then talk about how Vatican Council II supports the Social Reign of Christ the King in politics and law.

Pope Francis and the leftist  politicians speak only about Vatican Council II, Cushingite.

Pope Francis and Pope Benedict often mention Vatican Council II in politics.Salvini can do the same.So can Giorgia Meloni.But with a different interpretation.

Vatican Council II is a political issue for the Left and they interpret it with a false premise. I call it Cushingism.

Vatican Council II can also be interpreted without the false premise. I call it Vatican Council II, Feeneyite.

Vatican Council II(Feeneyite) is also a political issue but  Salvini and the Lega do not know  it.

Salvini and Meloni do not know about Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) since the ecclesiastics are not going to tell them about it.

 Vatican Council II is public but there is a message which is kept hidden from the Italian people.

Here it is: Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II says all need faith and the baptism of water for salvation. Ad Gentes 7 is placed in the Catechism of the Catholic Church under the title Outside the Church No Salvation(CCC 846).So the Council is saying there is exclusive salvation(AG 7) in the Catholic Church.The Council also indicates that Lumen Gentium 16 ( invincible ignorance) etc, refers to a hypothetical case only.  It can only be hypothetical. There is no other choice.This is common sense. So it cannot be an exception to Ad Gentes 7. There are no literal cases of non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance outside the Church. So there cannot be practical exceptions to Ad Gentes 7.

In Vatican Council II, LG 8, LG 14, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc are not exceptions to Ad Gentes 7 and the old dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.So Vatican Council II really says there is exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church-only the Catholic Church - and there can be no known exceptions.

This information is kept hidden by the Left and the present two popes.

So please pray the rosary Matteo with the Italian people, and ask the two popes and leftist Catholic politicians, to affirm exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church, according to Vatican Council II( Feeneyite).

Why?

Since migrants need to save their soul from Hell.They need to enter the Catholic Church with 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).

Lutherans need Catholic faith and the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, or they too are going to Hell.

Communists and atheists  are also going to Hell according to Ad Gentes 7 in Vatican Council II (Feeneyite).

This is also a political issue, for another reason.

Members of the Judiciary, the Italian professors at the Faculty of Jurisprudence at the La Sapienza University,the Departments of Canon Law at pontifical universities and the Roman Rota interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingism.They use a false premise to create a non traditional conclusion.This is a rupture with Catholic Tradition.Students of law have to accept this irrationality. It is also a falsehood which  vocations to the religious life, priests and nuns, must repeat to be accepted.It is a lie.It is unethical.

Even Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke, former Prefect of the Apostolic Signatura, Vatican, interpreted Vatican Council II with the false premise. Vatican Council II is also interpreted  with Cushingism, at the University of Milan, where Justice Nicolo Zanon,was a professor.

He is now a Judge of the Italian Constitutional Court, Rome.How can a judge, in ignorance, use a false premise to interpret a Church Council ? All the other judges, who have studied at Catholic institutions would be using the same reasoning to interpret Magisterial documents.

On December 13, 2019 a Magistrate of the Ministry of Justice was supposed to talk in Rome , at a program organized by the Arcisodalitum, Curiae Romanae, which only accepts Vatican Council II ( Cushingism).

On December 12, 2019 Prof. Fr. Wojciech Giertych op, the papal theologian, was the moderator of a doctoral dissertation of Sister Elisa Ann Nutt at the Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas(Angelicum), Rome.Both interpret  Vatican Council II  with Cushingism only. Cushingism is irrational, non traditional, heretical and deception.

I am not allowed to study Philosophy and Theology at a pontifical university in Rome since I interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism. So the Council is in harmony with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium in the 16th century.

This is discriminating against a Catholic in Rome.

So this is a political issue in Italy, which Salvini and Meloni must bring up before their political opponents, their political parties, the judiciary, ecclesiastics and Italians in general.-Lionel Andrades. 

 

MONDAY, OCTOBER 14, 2019

The liberal media still ignores how Vatican Council II is not a break with Tradition but supports the old exclusivist ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and the Syllabus of Errors when interpreted rationally.This is a news story. It's news when Vatican Council II is interpreted with the hermeneutic of continuity with the Magisterium, and missionaries of the 16th century.

The liberal media still ignores how Vatican Council II is not a break with Tradition but supports the old exclusivist ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and the Syllabus of Errors when interpreted rationally.This is a news story.

It's news when Vatican Council II is interpreted  with the hermeneutic of continuity  with the Magisterium, and missionaries of the 16th century.

The Council supports exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church as did St. Robert Bellarmine, St. Francis Xavier , St.Ignatius of Loyola. 

Vatican Council II is in harmony with St. Teresa of Avila's concept of Lutheranism and St. Francis di Sales concept of heresies and heretics..

It's news when Cardinal Ladaria made a mistake at the Placuet Deo Press Conference and confused Lumen Gentium 8 as being a reference to known salvation outside the Church. Then he assumed LG 8 ( being saved with elements of sanctification and truth in other religions, or where the true Church of Christ subsists outside the Church) referred to a known person  and was an exception to the past teaching  on the Church having an exclusiveness and superiority on salvation.

It's news when Vatican Council II  supports Don Bosco's concept of Islamism.

But Massimo Faggioli, John Allen and Michael Sean Winters are not reporting it.

Instead there seems a censorship of reports on  Vatican Council II. It is not reported that the Council  supports the strict interpretation of outside the Church there is no salvation.Perhaps this does not meet some European Union standard.

Vatican Council II being traditional would be a disappointment for many. Pope Francis' entire Amazon Synod, with all its confusion is based upon Vatican Council II being interpreted with a false premise and inference.

Now its a surprise when many discover and admit that even though Congers, Rahner, Bea and Ratzinger  were there at Vatican Council II, the Council can be interpreted  in harmony with the ecclesiology of the Jesuit missionaries in the Middle Ages.

This is taking the Church back to the time of Jesus, the time of his disciples, the Early Catholics and the Church Fathers.

 Vatican Council II in itself is not a rupture with Tradition and so Archbishop Lefebvre and the SSPX bishop were wrong.This is news.But it is not being reported by the liberal media.

 

 

There was a report in a left wing media which mentioned Banon's 'army' but there is no report which says Vatican Council II supports Steve Bannon's orthodoxy  and populism.

We don't hear Matteo Salvini and Goergia Melloni  quoting Vatican Council II on the need for migrants to convert  with 'faith and baptism' to avoid Hell(AG 7, Vatican Council II).We do not hear Roberto Fiore saying there is no known  salvation outside the Catholic Church, since LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to personally unknown cases  in 2019. The norm for going to Heaven is faith and baptism(AG 7, LG 14).So Vatican Council II supports the proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King.

This is not new.When Cardinal Angelo Amato was Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican  he called for mission based upon Vatican Council II.In an interview with the then independent daily Avvenire, he particularly cited AG 7 and LG 14. All need faith and baptism for salvation. All. So mission is necessary.

Vatican Council II is in harmony with St. Maximillian Kolbe on evangelisation.This is news. but it is not being reported.-Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/01/matteo-salvini-and-lega-nord-members.html

_____________________________________________

JANUARY 20, 2017

Matteo Salvini and the Lega Nord members need to affirm Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) and ask the two popes and the Congregation for the Doctrrine of the Faith to do the same.

Members of the Lega Nord politial party in Italy do not know that there was a theological mistake made in the Catholic Church in 1949 and it has been accepted by the two popes.1 It has changed Catholic doctrine which is now accepted also by the Lega Nord and other political parties in Italy.It is leftist-doctine and it is supported unkowingly by Matteo Salvini the Lega Nord leader.2

The mistake was repeated in 1960-1965 and since then there has been no correction.So now the only interpretation of Vatican Council II which exists is Vatican Council II (Cushingite).

Cardinal Dionigi Tettamanzi for example will only support Vatican Council II Cushingite, so also Monsignor Galantino.

They will not affirm Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) which avoids the theological error, the new theology.Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) does not consider hypothetical cases as not being hypothetical.So there is no irrational premise used to make Vatican Council II a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to the 16th century missionaries.
 

The Lega Nord members are all interpreting Vatican Council II as a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to St. Robert Bellarnine, St. Francis Xavier, St. Igantius of Loyola and the popes of that time.

Matteo Salvini and the  Lega Nord members need to affirm Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) and ask the two popes and the Congregation for the Doctrrine of the Faith to do the same.

Vatican Council II Cushingite is irrational, non traditional and heretical.It is an innovation in the Church.-Lionel Andrades

 

 

 1

January 19, 2017
Matteo Salvini ask Lega Nord members to affirm Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) :stop the deception of the Vatican http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/01/matteo-salvini-ask-lega-nord-members-to.html

2

What is Vatican Council II (Cushingite) ? What is the difference between Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) and Vatican Council II (Cushingite) ? 

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/01/what-is-vatican-council-ii-cushingite.html 

 

January 19, 2017

WHAT IS VATICAN COUNCIL II FEENEYITE?

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/01/what-is-vatican-council-ii-feeneyite.html 

SATURDAY, DECEMBER 21, 2019

This is a political issue in Italy, which Salvini and Meloni must bring up before their political opponents, their political parties, the judiciary, ecclesiastics and Italians in general

 

Salvini needs to talk about exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.He would be opening up a new political front for his secular and religious opponents.It's a long time since he held up a rosary at a political meeting. I miss it.

With that rosary he was saying Italy is still Catholic as the invasion continues.

So I  miss seeing that rosary in Matteo's hand.

We now need to hear Catholic theology at the Lega  political meetings.

Please talk about Vatican Council II being in harmony with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).

Talk about the difference between Vatican Council II, Feeneyite and Vatican Council II, Cushingite.

Then talk about how Vatican Council II supports the Social Reign of Christ the King in politics and law.

Pope Francis and the leftist  politicians speak only about Vatican Council II, Cushingite.

Pope Francis and Pope Benedict often mention Vatican Council II in politics.Salvini can do the same.So can Giorgia Meloni.But with a different interpretation.

Vatican Council II is a political issue for the Left and they interpret it with a false premise. I call it Cushingism.

Vatican Council II can also be interpreted without the false premise. I call it Vatican Council II, Feeneyite.

Vatican Council II(Feeneyite) is also a political issue but  Salvini and the Lega do not know  it.

Salvini and Meloni do not know about Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) since the ecclesiastics are not going to tell them about it.

 Vatican Council II is public but there is a message which is kept hidden from the Italian people.

Here it is: Ad Gentes 7, Vatican Council II says all need faith and the baptism of water for salvation. Ad Gentes 7 is placed in the Catechism of the Catholic Church under the title Outside the Church No Salvation(CCC 846).So the Council is saying there is exclusive salvation(AG 7) in the Catholic Church.The Council also indicates that Lumen Gentium 16 ( invincible ignorance) etc, refers to a hypothetical case only.  It can only be hypothetical. There is no other choice.This is common sense. So it cannot be an exception to Ad Gentes 7. There are no literal cases of non Catholics saved in invincible ignorance outside the Church. So there cannot be practical exceptions to Ad Gentes 7.

In Vatican Council II, LG 8, LG 14, UR 3, NA2, GS 22 etc are not exceptions to Ad Gentes 7 and the old dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus.So Vatican Council II really says there is exclusive salvation in only the Catholic Church-only the Catholic Church - and there can be no known exceptions.

This information is kept hidden by the Left and the present two popes.

So please pray the rosary Matteo with the Italian people, and ask the two popes and leftist Catholic politicians, to affirm exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church, according to Vatican Council II( Feeneyite).

Why?

Since migrants need to save their soul from Hell.They need to enter the Catholic Church with 'faith and baptism'(AG 7).

Lutherans need Catholic faith and the baptism of water in the Catholic Church, or they too are going to Hell.

Communists and atheists  are also going to Hell according to Ad Gentes 7 in Vatican Council II (Feeneyite).

This is also a political issue, for another reason.

Members of the Judiciary, the Italian professors at the Faculty of Jurisprudence at the La Sapienza University,the Departments of Canon Law at pontifical universities and the Roman Rota interpret Vatican Council II with Cushingism.They use a false premise to create a non traditional conclusion.This is a rupture with Catholic Tradition.Students of law have to accept this irrationality. It is also a falsehood which  vocations to the religious life, priests and nuns, must repeat to be accepted.It is a lie.It is unethical.

Even Cardinal Raymond Leo Burke, former Prefect of the Apostolic Signatura, Vatican, interpreted Vatican Council II with the false premise. Vatican Council II is also interpreted  with Cushingism, at the University of Milan, where Justice Nicolo Zanon,was a professor.

He is now a Judge of the Italian Constitutional Court, Rome.How can a judge, in ignorance, use a false premise to interpret a Church Council ? All the other judges, who have studied at Catholic institutions would be using the same reasoning to interpret Magisterial documents.

On December 13, 2019 a Magistrate of the Ministry of Justice was supposed to talk in Rome , at a program organized by the Arcisodalitum, Curiae Romanae, which only accepts Vatican Council II ( Cushingism).

On December 12, 2019 Prof. Fr. Wojciech Giertych op, the papal theologian, was the moderator of a doctoral dissertation of Sister Elisa Ann Nutt at the Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas(Angelicum), Rome.Both interpret  Vatican Council II  with Cushingism only. Cushingism is irrational, non traditional, heretical and deception.

I am not allowed to study Philosophy and Theology at a pontifical university in Rome since I interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism. So the Council is in harmony with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus as it was known to the missionaries and Magisterium in the 16th century.

This is discriminating against a Catholic in Rome.

So this is a political issue in Italy, which Salvini and Meloni must bring up before their political opponents, their political parties, the judiciary, ecclesiastics and Italians in general.-Lionel Andrades. 




 

MONDAY, OCTOBER 14, 2019

The liberal media still ignores how Vatican Council II is not a break with Tradition but supports the old exclusivist ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and the Syllabus of Errors when interpreted rationally.This is a news story. It's news when Vatican Council II is interpreted with the hermeneutic of continuity with the Magisterium, and missionaries of the 16th century.

The liberal media still ignores how Vatican Council II is not a break with Tradition but supports the old exclusivist ecclesiology, an ecumenism of return and the Syllabus of Errors when interpreted rationally.This is a news story.

It's news when Vatican Council II is interpreted  with the hermeneutic of continuity  with the Magisterium, and missionaries of the 16th century.

The Council supports exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church as did St. Robert Bellarmine, St. Francis Xavier , St.Ignatius of Loyola. 

Vatican Council II is in harmony with St. Teresa of Avila's concept of Lutheranism and St. Francis di Sales concept of heresies and heretics..

It's news when Cardinal Ladaria made a mistake at the Placuet Deo Press Conference and confused Lumen Gentium 8 as being a reference to known salvation outside the Church. Then he assumed LG 8 ( being saved with elements of sanctification and truth in other religions, or where the true Church of Christ subsists outside the Church) referred to a known person  and was an exception to the past teaching  on the Church having an exclusiveness and superiority on salvation.

It's news when Vatican Council II  supports Don Bosco's concept of Islamism.

But Massimo Faggioli, John Allen and Michael Sean Winters are not reporting it.

Instead there seems a censorship of reports on  Vatican Council II. It is not reported that the Council  supports the strict interpretation of outside the Church there is no salvation.Perhaps this does not meet some European Union standard.

Vatican Council II being traditional would be a disappointment for many. Pope Francis' entire Amazon Synod, with all its confusion is based upon Vatican Council II being interpreted with a false premise and inference.

Now its a surprise when many discover and admit that even though Congers, Rahner, Bea and Ratzinger  were there at Vatican Council II, the Council can be interpreted  in harmony with the ecclesiology of the Jesuit missionaries in the Middle Ages.

This is taking the Church back to the time of Jesus, the time of his disciples, the Early Catholics and the Church Fathers.

 Vatican Council II in itself is not a rupture with Tradition and so Archbishop Lefebvre and the SSPX bishop were wrong.This is news.But it is not being reported by the liberal media.

 

 

There was a report in a left wing media which mentioned Banon's 'army' but there is no report which says Vatican Council II supports Steve Bannon's orthodoxy  and populism.

We don't hear Matteo Salvini and Goergia Melloni  quoting Vatican Council II on the need for migrants to convert  with 'faith and baptism' to avoid Hell(AG 7, Vatican Council II).We do not hear Roberto Fiore saying there is no known  salvation outside the Catholic Church, since LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to personally unknown cases  in 2019. The norm for going to Heaven is faith and baptism(AG 7, LG 14).So Vatican Council II supports the proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King.

This is not new.When Cardinal Angelo Amato was Secretary of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Vatican  he called for mission based upon Vatican Council II.In an interview with the then independent daily Avvenire, he particularly cited AG 7 and LG 14. All need faith and baptism for salvation. All. So mission is necessary.

Vatican Council II is in harmony with St. Maximillian Kolbe on evangelisation.This is news. but it is not being reported.-Lionel Andrades 

APRIL 24, 2023

Catholic political parties deny the Catholic Faith for political reasons

 

Selene Ticchi D’Urso an Italian from Budrio,Bologna, Italy,a member of the political party Forza Nuova was fined 9000 Euros with four months in jail, for wearing a T-shirt which the Jewish Left considered Anti-Semitic.She was then absolved by a tribunal from Forli, Italy.

                                                                       https://www.sana.sy/en/?p=75501

Forza Nuova, the political party headed by Roberto Fiore, suspended her indefinitely. Now if Fiore, who attends the Latin Mass at the SSPX chapel in Rome, says he affirms the Fourth Lateran Council (1215) on the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS) and for him LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3. NA 2 GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II are only hypothetical cases in 1965-2023, then he too would be labeled Anti Semitic.

The Jewish Left would campaign against Forza Nuova.

So Roberto Fiore does not affirm Vatican Council II interpreted rationally i.e. LG 8,25,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc refer to hypothetical cases only and are not objective exceptions for 12^th century EENS.

It is the same with the SSPX priests at Albano who come to Rome on Sunday mornings.They are all looking after their worldly interests on this issue.

Even the political parties Lega Salvini and Fratelli Italia are not appealing to Pope Francis to interpret Vatican Council II rationally and accept the traditional conclusion. 

Neither are the Catholics in these political parties, at the rank and file level, doing the same.

Imagine it! - The traditionalists in Rome do not want to affirm Tradition, for political reasons.They actually want Vatican Council II to be a rupture and not continuity with Tradition.

SSPX SEMINARIANS STUDY AT PONTIFICAL UNIVERSITIES

Yesterday the SSPX priest who offered Mass at the SSPX chapel near the basilica of St. Mary Majors in Rome, said, amongst other things, that their seminarians at Albano, about four or five of them, were allowed to study at the pontifical universities in Rome. Of course this is approved by Pope Francis. I thought to myself, that these SSPX seminarians were allowed to study at the liberal pontifical universities because they were not Anti Semitic in the interpretation of Vatican Council II, the Creeds and Catechisms. They had rejected Tradition. They had reneged on the Catholic Faith, in public, and so have been approved politically. This is the same as members of Forza Nuova or relatives of Roberto Fiore, who could also study as lay people, at the pontifical universities in Rome.

The SSPX General Chapter (2012) which issued a Statement supporting EENS according to the Fourth Lateran Council (1215).
 Now since they are not Anti Semitic they do not have a problem with employment, travel, housing etc. They choose to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and so create false exceptions for the past Councils. 

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2012/05/se-scomunicato-don-leonard-feeney-per.html

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They are not Feeneyite on EENS like Fr. Leonard Feeney of Boston, who accepted the baptism of desire theoretically but said there were no physically visible cases (See The Bread of Life).Feeneyites affirm the Fourth Lateran Council and the Council of Florence on EENS. Both Councils did not mention any exceptions.

The SSPX priests do not say the same. So there is ‘no tension’ for these ‘traditionalists’.

Forza Nuova actually cooperates with the Muslim police to deny the Catholic Faith at the SSPX chapel near the Cavour metro station. Roberto Fiore is aligned with the Zionists on this issue of Vatican Council II.He does not oppose them with Vatican Council II ( rational).

How can FN claim to support the Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics when they reject Vatican Council II ( rational)  and re-interpret the Catechism of Pope Pius X irrationally ( 29Q-visible cases of being saved in invincible ignorance etc) ? Proclaiming the Social Reign of Christ the King depends upon the past exclusivist ecclesiology. 

Now the SSPX has a politically correct Latin Mass which is a rupture with the ecclesiology of the Latin Mass in the 16^th century.

Roberto Fiore has aligned himself with the Jewish Left (ADL, B’nai Brith etc) on Vatican Council II. This is pro globalist and pro-Soros like the Mass held the other day by a Masonic Anglican at the John Lateran Basilica. This was where Pope Honorius III issued the Fourth Lateran Council at the time St Dominic Guzman and the founders of the Dominican Order of Preachers.

In these times when the traditionalists do not affirm the Faith like the liberal Catholic-Anglicans, it is becoming difficult to be a Catholic in Rome. - Lionel Andrades

https://www.lagazzettadelmezzogiorno.it/news/english/1074593/forza-nuova-suspends-auschwitzland-t-shirt-wearer.html

https://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2023/01/13/indosso-la-maglietta-con-la-scritta-auschwitzland-a-predappio-il-tribunale-di-forli-assolve-selene-ticchi/6935008/

 

 

 














 

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