Coetus Internationalis Patrum made a mistake at the Amazon Synod they are repeating it with Cardinal Jean Claude Hollerich sj General Relator of the Synod on Synodality 2023

 

Cardinal Jean-Claude Hollerich, S.J the General Relator of the Synod on Synodality (2023) like the General Relator of the 2019 Amazon Synod , Cardinal Claudio Hummes did not explain the difference between Vatican Council II interpreted with or without a false premise, and simply interpreted the Council with a false premise to create a parallel new Church, which is an artificial rupture with Tradition.

The Coetus Internationalis Patrum, traditionalist Catholics in Italy, cited Dominus Iesus interpreted with the false premise before the Amazon Synod asking for the Amazon people to affirm extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( with exceptions). Coetus Internationalis Patrum Working Group (International Group of Fathers) did not choose to interpret Vatican Council II without the false premise; and with the rational premise.This would make the Council ecclesiocentric in its ecclesiology

 Coetus Internationalis Patrum Working Group (International Group of Fathers) had to address the issue of the false premise and the rational premise in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and Dominus Iesus.

The four point criticism of the Amazon Synod, Working Paper,issued by Coetus Internationalis Patrum Working Group (International Group of Fathers) was based upon the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II.

They used the common false premise.So they could not cite Ad Gentes 7 to support the  old exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church, with LG 8, LG 14,LG 16, UR 3,NA 2, GS 22 etc not being exceptions; not being practical exceptions to AG 7 and Feeneyite EENS. 

Hollerich, Archbishop of Luxembourg first interprets Vatican Council II with the false premise, creates a rupture with Tradition ( Syllabus of Errors of Pope Pius IX) and then calls up this ‘spririt of Vatican Council II’ and ‘development of doctrine’ to  support married men as priests and have women also as priests.

With the false premise with which he interprets Magisterial documents, un-checked by the Lefebvrists who make the same mistake, he will reject Traditional Mission, at the 2023 Synod, titled, “For a synodal Church: communion, participation and mission”.

He will deliver an introduction to the Synod and also write  the final document, interpreting the Council, the Creeds, Catechisms and Vatican Council II with the fake premise, producing new doctrines.

At the Amazonian Synod the Brazilian Cardinal Claudio Hummes, rejected exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church by citing Vatican Council II interpreted with the false premise. It was also a negation of the First Commandment.

The Amazon Synod was theologically based upon Vatican Council II, interpreted irrationally. This was confirmed by Cardinal Hummes. He said that the basis of the decisions and changes at the Amazon Synod, was Vatican Council II. He meant the Council , interpreted irrationally.He criticized the SSPX for not accepting Vatican Council II(with the false premise).
The Instrumentum Laboris and the final document on the Amazon Synod was based upon an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II. An irrational premise, inference and conclusion was used by Cardinal Hummes and the cardinals and bishops to interpret the Council as a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( which has no exceptions), the Athanasius Creed ( outside the Church there is no salvation with no exceptions) and the Catechism of Pope Pius X( 24 Q and 27 Q -outside the Church no salvation with invincible ignorance not being an exception).

-Lionel Andrades

https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/popes-appointment-of-new-synods-general-relator-points-to-his-support-of-german-synodal-path

 SEPTEMBER 8, 2020

At the Amazonian Synod the Brazilian Cardinal Claudio Hummes, rejected exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church by citing Vatican Council II interpreted with the false premise. It was also a negation of the First Commandment

 

At the Amazonian Synod the Brazilian Cardinal Claudio Hummes,  rejected exclusive salvation  in the Catholic Church by citing Vatican Council II interpreted with the false premise. It was also a negation of the First Commandment. -Lionel Andrades

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/search?q=Cardinal+Claudio+Hummes

 JANUARY 29, 2020

The Synodal Path of the German Bishops begins on January 3o and it is based upon an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II. Also the Amazon Synod was theologically based upon Vatican Council II, interpreted irrationally. This was confirmed by Cardinal Hummes. He said that the basis of the decisions and changes at the Amazon Synod, was Vatican Council II. He meant the Council , interpreted irrationally.

The Synodal Path of the German Bishops begins on January 3 and it is based upon an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II. Also the Amazon Synod was theologically based upon Vatican Council II, interpreted irrationally. This was confirmed by Cardinal Hummes. He said that the basis of the decisions and changes at the Amazon Synod, was Vatican Council II. He meant the Council , interpreted irrationally.

 Cardinal Reinhardt Marx needs to admit that all the books on Vatican Council II in Germany, in general, were written with a false interpretation. A false premise and inference was used to create a rupture with the past ecclesiology and an ecumenism of return.

All the books on Vatican Council II in the library of the Catholic University of Eichstadt-Ingolstadt, Bavaria in his diocese,interpret the Council with a false premise  and inference.So how can Vatican Council II,interpreted with a false premise and inference, be a theological source for the Synod Path?

It is now considered unethical for Pope Benedict to interpret unknown cases of LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc  as being known exceptions  to the past ecclesiology of the German Catholics saints and martyrs of the Middle Ages.Similarly it would be dishonest for Cardinal Marx  to project LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc as being practical exceptinos to the past ecclesiology of the German Catholic Church over the centuries.

The German bishops need to inform Catholics that LG 8, etc are not literal exceptions to the 16th century German interpretation of EENS and that over the last 50 years, the German bishops made a mistake in the interpretation of Vatican Council II.The Council really supports the ecclesiology of the Bishops of Freising since the 8th century.
The Synodal Path cannot interpret invisible cases of the baptism of desire and invincible ignorance as being a visible rupture with EENS as it was known  but this is also the false interpretation of EENS and Vatican Council II , by Cardinal Hummes.
Cardinal Marx and the German Bishops are giving out mis-information to the German people, the Government and the media. The Church-State relations are based upon a dishonest interpretation of Vatican Council II.-Lionel Andrades

JANUARY 29, 2020

Pope Benedict needs to apologies for projecting LG 16, GS 22 etc as being practical exceptions to the past ecclesiology of the Church.He has made this error in his articles and books and two theological papers of the International Theological Commission, Vatican, which he approved as the cardinal-prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. 

 https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2020/01/pope-benedict-needs-to-apologies-for.html

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FEBRUARY 14, 2020

The Instrumentum Laboris and the final document on the Amazon Synod was based upon an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II. An irrational premise, inference and conclusion was used by Cardinal Hummes and the cardinals and bishops to interpret the Council as a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( which has no exceptions), the Athanasius Creed ( outside the Church there is no salvation with no exceptions) and the Catechism of Pope Pius X( 24 Q and 27 Q -outside the Church no salvation with invincible ignorance not being an exception).

The  Instrumentum Laboris  and the final document on the Amazon Synod was based upon an irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II. An irrational premise, inference and conclusion was used by Cardinal Hummes and the cardinals and bishops to interpret the Council as a rupture with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus ( which has no exceptions), the Athanasius Creed ( outside the Church there is no salvation with no exceptions) and the Catechism of Pope Pius X( 24 Q and 27 Q -outside the Church no salvation with invincible ignorance not being an exception).

Instead for the Amazon Synod cardinals and bishops there was no more exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church since LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc though unknown, theoretical and hypothetical in reality were interpreted as being exceptions to the traditional teaching on no salvation outside the Church. So it was implied that LG 8, LG 14, LG 16 etc refer to visible and not invisible cases for them to be exceptions to the past exclusivist ecclesiology of the Church. It was implied with the false premise, that unknown cases of being saved in invincible ignorance in the present times, were known exception to Feeneyite EENS.

So with this irrationality a Working Paper was produced.

Pope Benedict and Cardinal Hummes need to acknowledge that Vatican Council II can be intepreted with the rational premise, inference and conclusion and there would be no rupture with the dogma EENS, the Catechism of Pope Pius X and the Athansius Creed.

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SATURDAY, OCTOBER 31, 2020

Cushingite Coetus Internationalis Patrum, traditionalist Catholics in Italy, cited Cushingite Dominus Iesus before the Cushingite Amazon Synod asking for Feeneyite EENS for the Amazonians

 Cushingite Coetus Internationalis Patrum, traditionalist Catholics in Italy, cited Cushingite Dominus Iesus before the Cushingite Amazon Synod, asking for Feeneyite EENS for the Amazonians. 😊 -Lionel Andrades

OCTOBER 24, 2019

Coetus Internationalis Patrum Working Group had three options

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/10/the-coetus-internationalis-patrum.html

OCTOBER 10, 2019

The anonymous Coetus Internationalis Patrum Working Group (International Group of Fathers) did not choose to interpret Vatican Council II with Feeneyism; without the false premise,making the Council ecclesiocentric in its ecclesiology.So with Vatican Council II being only Christological for them the citation from Dominus Iesus 14 and 16 was enough.Since with the New Theology of Rahner and Ratzinger,everyone is saved through Jesus and the Church and so they do not necessarily have to become members of the Catholic Church or even know or believe in Jesus.

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/10/the-anonymous-coetus-internationalis.html 

 

OCTOBER 4, 2019

Coetus Internationalis Patrum Working Group (International Group of Fathers) had to address the issue of Cushingism and Feeneyism in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and Dominus Iesus

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/10/coetus-internationalis-patrum-working.html

OCTOBER 6, 2019

The four point criticism of the Amazon Synod, Working Paper, on Oct. 1 issued by Coetus Internationalis Patrum Working Group (International Group of Fathers) is based upon the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II.   https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/10/the-four-point-criticism-of-amazon.html   https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/bishops-priests-challenge-amazon-synod-working-doc-for-contradicting-catholic-faith

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SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 16, 2019

Edward Pentin and Diane Montagna could ask Coetus International to clarify their statement  

The anonymous Coetus International wrote their criticism of the Working Document of the Amazon Synod based upon the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II. They used the common false premise.So they could not cite the Council in Ad Gentes 7 to support the  old exclusivist ecclesiology of the Catholic Church. 

It was similar to Chris Ferrara's book, EWTN a Network Gone Wrong.Ferrara did not know that Vatican Council II contradicted the apologists at EWTN on Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the traditional ecumenism of return. 

Edward Pentin and Diane Montagna among the other journalists who posted that statement by Coetus Int'l, could ask them for a clarification.

Coetus cited Dominus Iesus 14 and 16 which is Christological and not ecclesiocentric against the Working Document rejecting exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church.

This was a mistake. It was wrong to cite a Christological passage to counter a point which rejected exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church. 

Since with the New Theology ( based upon visible cases of LG 8, LG 16, UR 3 etc) , Cardinals Hummes, Kasper and Ladaria could say that the Amazonians are saved in their pagan religions, through Jesus and the Church. This was the New Theology of Pope Benedict too.

So Pope Benedict would conclude that the Amazonians in the jungle do not need to convert into the Catholic Church for salvation. They could be saved in invincible ignorance in their religion, through Jesus and the Church.He would cite Vatican Council II interpreted irrationally, with Cushingism.

Upon this reasoning was also based Pope Francis' Abu Dhabi Declaration.So exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church is now obsolete for the present two popes and the Left. 

Similarly Bishop Robert Barron and the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops' Doctrinal and Evangelisation Committees, interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and there can be no comment from Coetus, since they use the same irrational reasoning. The traditionalists, however, use the irrational reasoning of the modernists to interpret the Council, but reject the Council.While the liberals accept the Council with the error.

The journalists who accepted and published the anonymous statement of Coetus, could ask them to explain themself on this issue.I have mentioned this before.-Lionel Andrades

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 OCTOBER 4, 2019 Coetus Internationalis Patrum Working Group (International Group of Fathers) had to address the issue of Cushingism and Feeneyism in the interpretation of Vatican Council II and Dominus Iesus https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/10/coetus-internationalis-patrum-working.html

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They can still issue another statement and coordinate with me,since I am the only person writing on this issue.The aim would be to share information, correct the error and not condemn any one.-Lionel Andrades

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DOMINUS IESUS  

14.  It must therefore be firmly believed as a truth of Catholic faith that the universal salvific will of the One and Triune God is offered and accomplished once for all in the mystery of the incarnation, death, and resurrection of the Son of God. Bearing in mind this article of faith, theology today, in its reflection on the existence of other religious experiences and on their meaning in God's salvific plan, is invited to explore if and in what way the historical figures and positive elements of these religions may fall within the divine plan of salvation. In this undertaking, theological research has a vast field of work under the guidance of the Church's Magisterium.  The Second Vatican Council, in fact, has stated that: “the unique mediation of the Redeemer does not exclude, but rather gives rise to a manifold cooperation which is but a participation in this one source”.43 The content of this participated mediation should be explored more deeply, but must remain always consistent with the principle of Christ's unique mediation: “Although participated forms of mediation of different kinds and degrees are not excluded, they acquire meaning and value only from Christ's own mediation, and they cannot be understood as parallel or complementary to his”.44 Hence, those solutions that propose a salvific action of God beyond the unique mediation of Christ would be contrary to Christian and Catholic faith. IV. UNICITY AND UNITY OF THE CHURCH 16.  The Lord Jesus, the only Saviour, did not only establish a simple community of disciples, but constituted the Church as a salvific mystery: he himself is in the Church and the Church is in him (cf. Jn 15:1ff.; Gal 3:28; Eph 4:15-16; Acts 9:5).  Therefore, the fullness of Christ's salvific mystery belongs also to the Church, inseparably united to her Lord. Indeed, Jesus Christ continues his presence and his work of salvation in the Church and by means of the Church (cf. Col 1:24-27),47 which is his body (cf. 1 Cor 12:12-13, 27; Col 1:18).48 And thus, just as the head and members of a living body, though not identical, are inseparable, so too Christ and the Church can neither be confused nor separated, and constitute a single “whole Christ”.49 This same inseparability is also expressed in the New Testament by the analogy of the Church as the Bride of Christ (cf. 2 Cor 11:2; Eph 5:25-29; Rev 21:2,9).50 Therefore, in connection with the unicity and universality of the salvific mediation of Jesus Christ, the unicity of the Church founded by him must be firmly believed as a truth of Catholic faith. Just as there is one Christ, so there exists a single body of Christ, a single Bride of Christ: “a single Catholic and apostolic Church”.51 Furthermore, the promises of the Lord that he would not abandon his Church (cf. Mt 16:18; 28:20) and that he would guide her by his Spirit (cf. Jn 16:13) mean, according to Catholic faith, that the unicity and the unity of the Church — like everything that belongs to the Church's integrity — will never be lacking.52 The Catholic faithful are required to profess that there is an historical continuity — rooted in the apostolic succession53 — between the Church founded by Christ and the Catholic Church: “This is the single Church of Christ... which our Saviour, after his resurrection, entrusted to Peter's pastoral care (cf. Jn 21:17), commissioning him and the other Apostles to extend and rule her (cf. Mt 28:18ff.), erected for all ages as ‘the pillar and mainstay of the truth' (1 Tim 3:15). This Church, constituted and organized as a society in the present world, subsists in [subsistit in] the Catholic Church, governed by the Successor of Peter and by the Bishops in communion with him”.54  With the expression subsistit in, the Second Vatican Council sought to harmonize two doctrinal statements: on the one hand, that the Church of Christ, despite the divisions which exist among Christians, continues to exist fully only in the Catholic Church, and on the other hand, that “outside of her structure, many elements can be found of sanctification and truth”,55 that is, in those Churches and ecclesial communities which are not yet in full communion with the Catholic Church.56 But with respect to these, it needs to be stated that “they derive their efficacy from the very fullness of grace and truth entrusted to the Catholic Church”.57 https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/bishops-priests-challenge-amazon-synod-working-doc-for-contradicting-catholic-faith JANUARY 28, 2019 In Dominus Iesus the red is not an exception to the blue, the red does not contradict the blue : with the blue there is a hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition ( EENS, Syllabus of Errors, ecumenism of return, past exclusivist ecclesiology etc) https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/in-dominus-iesus-red-is-not-exception.html  DECEMBER 20, 2017 Dominus Iesus is not Feeneyite but uses the irrational Cushingite theology.Cardinal Kasper is correct. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2017/12/question-for-matthew-bellisario-so-you.html JANUARY 24, 2019 Vatican Council II's Decree on Ecumenism ( Unitatis Redintigratio) supports the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus   https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/vatican-council-iis-decree-on-ecumenism.html JANUARY 26, 2019      The Catechism of the Catholic Church affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus : CDF makes a mistake https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-catechism-of-catholic-church.html JANUARY 27, 2019 Pope Benedict never said that Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church tell us all need faith and baptism for salvation and so they support the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus. https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/pope-benedict-never-said-that-vatican.html JANUARY 25, 2019 For me the red does not contradict the blue so there is a hermeneutic of continuity with Tradition ( Graphics) https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/for-me-red-does-not-contrradict-blue-so.html JANUARY 25, 2019 The Social Reign of Christ the King can be proclaimed based on Vatican Council II and the Catechism of the Catholic Church which affirm the strict interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS) https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-social-reign-of-christ-king-can-be.html  JANUARY 23, 2019 The rational approach, the only approach, is that CCC 846 affirms the strict interpretation of the dogma EENS and there are no practical exceptions mentioned in CCC 846 or the rest of the Catechism https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/01/the-rational-approach-only-approach-is.html                    OCTOBER 4, 2019 The popes from Paul VI to Francis made an objective and factual mistake on Vatican Council II and so the Amazon Synod Working Paper rejects exclusive salvation.They have interpreted the Council with the false premise https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/10/the-popes-from-paul-vi-to-francis-made.html  OCTOBER 3, 2019 There is nothing controversial to proclaim.This is the new concept of mission approved by Pope Francis and Pope Benedict. Similarly in Rome, itself, the priest at Mass has nothing controversial to say since he interprets Vatican Council II with an irrational reasoning.There is no more exclusive salvation in the Catholic Church https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/10/there-is-nothing-controversial-to.html OCTOBER 2, 2019 The ecclesiology of the Working Paper of the Amazon Synod is heretical.Liturgically it could create an opening for the abomination of desolation to be brought to the altar https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/10/the-ecclesiology-of-working-paper-of.html  OCTOBER 1, 2019 Amazon Synod Instrumentum Laboris contradicts Vatican Council II and Creeds : it is first class heresy and a schism with the popes before Pius XII https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/10/amazon-synod-instrumentum-laboris.html ___________________