Do you accept Vatican Council II, Lionel?
Yes but only Vatican Council II (rational) i.e. with LG 8, 14, 15, 16,
UR 3, NA 2, and GS 22 etc referring to hypothetical cases always. They refer to
invisible people in 1965-2024 and so are not practical exceptions for the dogma
extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Athanasius Creed. Meanwhile Ad Gentes 7 (all
need faith and baptism for salvation) is in harmony with the past
ecclesiocentrism of the Catholic Church. So the Council is traditional and
exclusivist for me.
I reject Vatican Council II ( irrational) as interpreted by Pope
Francis, Cardinal Fernandez and Archbishop Vigano i.e LG 8,14,15,16 etc refer
to physically visible examples of salvation in 1965-2024, and so are practical
exceptions for the dogma EENS and the past ecclesiocentrism. The Council is a
revolution in the Church as the liberal media puts it. So for them the Council
is a break with Tradition. For me it is not a rupture with Tradition.
It is the same Council but their premise is (invisible people are
visible in the present times) for me they are not visible.
Their inference is that visible cases of LG 16 etc are practical
exceptions for the Athanasius Creed, Syllabus of Errors etc. For me this is irrational.
There are no such practical exceptions in our human reality.
Since Vatican Council II is a break with Tradition for them they believe they can change the Church's teachings on divorce, communion for the remarried,homosexual unions, rejection of the Roman Missal etc. For me the Council supports the dogma EENS and so there is no change in the ecclesiology of the Catholic Church. We cannot change faith and morals in the name of Vatican Council II, any more.
Do you accept Pope Francis as the pope?
Yes
but he is in public mortal sin when he interprets the Creeds etc irrationally.
He is not in communion with Jesus and His Mystical Body the Catholic Church. He
represents the political Left.
What about Cardinal McCarrick?
I have never commented on him.
With
Vatican Council II (rational) the Council supports the dogma EENS.
So there is no change in the ecclesiology of the Church. There is no New
Theology, New Ecumenism, New Evangelization etc. We return to traditional faith
and morals.
So
homosexual unions can no more justify in the name of Vatican Council II (rational).
Ethically, the Council can only be interpreted rationally.
I follow
the Magisterium of the Catholic Church (Vatican Council II, Creeds, Catechisms,
Councils, etc, interpreted only rationally).
The Magisterium does not change.
Pope Francis, Cardinal Fernandez and Archbishop Vigano are not Magisterial when they interpret Vatican Council II, the Creeds, Councils and Catechisms irrationally. Lionel Andrades
JUNE 27, 2024
Vigano must ask Msgr.Kennedy at the DDF to respond
JUNE 26, 2024
Gerard O’Connell writing in the Jesuit magazine America, has not clarified that Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano has to interpret Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally, otherwise he will face charges of schism or be excommunicated.
JUNE 26, 2024
Pope Francis and Cardinal Fernandez are in schism on Vatican Council II, the Catechism of the Catholic Church and other Magisterial Documents, when they use the irrational and not rational premise, to produce a break with Tradition (EENS etc). There is no denial from Bishop Athanasius Schneider. He agrees with me.
JUNE 26, 2024
THERE WILL BE NO DENIAL FROM THE VICAR GENERAL AND AUXILIARY BISHOPS OF ROME. POPE FRANCIS AND CARDINAL FERNANDEZ INTERPRET VATICAN COUNCIL II IRRATIONALLY AND DISHONESTLY.
JUNE 26, 2024
POPE FRANCIS AND CARDINAL FERNANDEZ CAN INTERPRET VATICAN COUNCIL II RATIONALLY AND THEN ASK ARCHBISHOP CARLO MARIA VIGANO TO DO THE SAME. THEN THEY WILL ALL BE MAGISTERIAL ON THE COUNCIL.
JUNE 26, 2024
POPE FRANCIS HAS SIMPLY TO ANNOUNCE THAT THERE ARE NO LITERALLY KNOWN CASES OF THE BAPTISM OF DESIRE ETC AND HE BECOMES MAGISTERIAL ON VATICAN COUNCIL
JUNE 26, 2024
THERE IS NO DENIAL FROM THE U.S STATE DEPARTMENT. PRESIDENT BIDEN IS UNETHICAL IN HIS INTERPRETATION OF VATICAN COUNCIL II. IT IS THE SAME DISHONEST INTERPRETATION OF POPE FRANCIS AND CARDINAL FERNANDEZ AND NOW THEY ARE THRUSTING DOWN THE THROAT OF ARCHBISHOP MARIA VIGANO.
JUNE 26, 2024
THE RECTOR OF THE PONTIFICAL NORTH AMERICAN COLLEGE(SEMINARY) ROME AGREES THAT THE INTERPRETATION OF VATICAN COUNCIL II BY PRESIDENT BIDEN IS IRRATIONAL AND UNETHICAL. HOWEVER THIS IS THE SAME HERETICAL AND SCHISMATIC INTERPRETATION OF THE COUNCIL BY POPE FRANCIS AND CARDINAL FERNANDEZ
JUNE 26, 2024
THE ITALIAN BISHOPS CONFERENCE (CEI) AND THE UNITED STATES CONFERENCE OF BISHOPS (USCCB) DID NOT COME TO THE SUPPORT OF PRESIDENT JOSEPH BIDEN A CATHOLIC, WHO INTERPRETS VATICAN COUNCIL II IRRATIONALLY AND NOT RATIONALLY AND CONTINUES WITH THE DISHONESTY. THEY ARE NOT EXPECTED TO DENY THAT POPE FRANCIS, CARDINAL FERNANDEZ AND THE U.S CARDINALS ARE ALSO INTERPRETING THE COUNCIL HERETICALLY AND SCHISMATICALLY.
JUNE 26, 2024
EVEN JOHN ALLEN AT CRUX, EDWARD PENTIN AT THE NATIONAL CATHOLIC REGISTER, NICOLE WINFIELD AT THE ASSOCIATED PRESS AND HEIDI SCHLUMPF AND JOSHUA MCELWEE AT THE NATIONAL CATHOLIC REPORTER AGREE THAT POPE FRANCIS AND CARDINAL FERNANDEZ INTERPRET THE COUNCIL IRRATIONALLY AND UNETHICALLY LIKE PRESIDENT BIDEN : THE RESULT IS HERESY ON THE CREEDS AND SCHISM WITH THE MAGISTERIUM OVER THE CENTURIES.CNA AND CNS HAVE NO DENIAL.
HTTPS://EUCHARISTANDMISSION.BLOGSPOT.COM/2024/06/EVEN-JOHN-ALLEN-AT-CRUX-EDWARD-PENTIN.HTML
JUNE 26, 2024
MY INTERPRETATION OF THE NICENE, APOSTLES AND ATHANASIUS CREED IS DIFFERENT FROM THAT OF CARDINAL FERNANDEZ
JUNE 26, 2024
WE DON'T HAVE UNITY ON THE CREEDS BECAUSE OF HERESY AND SCHISM WHICH IS OFFICIAL AND PART OF THE MAIN LINE CATHOLIC CHURCH
MAY 29, 2024
THIS WAS A DISCOVERY. IT MEANT VATICAN COUNCIL II WAS NOT A RUPTURE WITH TRADITION.
SOME 15 YEARS BACK I DISCOVERED THAT LUMEN GENTIUM 16 (BEING SAVED IN INVINCIBILE IGNORANCE) ETC WERE ALWAYS HYPOTHETICAL. SO HOW COULD THEY BE EXCEPTIONS FOR FEENEYITE EXTRA ECCLESIAM NULLA SALUS? THIS WAS A DISCOVERY. IT MEANT VATICAN COUNCIL II WAS NOT A RUPTURE WITH TRADITION.
-Lionel Andrades
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