Repost : Whispers of Restoration needs an article on Vatican Council II (Feeneyite)
JULY 25, 2018
Whispers of Restoration needs an article on Vatican Council II (Feeneyite)
Whispers of Restoration is based on Vatican Council II (Cushingite) and this is a limitation.Vatican Council II, Cushingite, with the false premise, is obviously a rupture with that line of catechisms mentioned on this new website. VATICAN COUNCIL II(FEENEYITE) WOULD NOT BE A RUPTURE WITH THE LIST OF CATECHISMS
Whispers of Restoration still has to mention Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) and how it wouldnot be a rupture with all the catechisms listed in the catechism section.
By not mentioning Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) this new website will be attacked with the usual stereotypes.Based upon the usual Cushingism liberals and Masons will wrongly say that the website is schismatic.
The liberals will say that the website rejects Vatican Council II. ARTICLES NEEDED SUPPORTING VATICAN COUNCIL II FEENEYITE
If there was an article supporting Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) though, the liberals would be confused.
If I was an editor at this website I would include articles supporting Vatican Council II(Feeneyite).There would be articles specifying Vatican Council II (Cushingite) and rejecting this interpretation as being non traditional and non rational.It causes a rupture between faith and reason.
I would point out that the books by Mattei,Ferrara, Amerio and others complain about the interpretation of Vatican Council II (C) and EENS (C) interpreted with a false premise. A wrong inference was made and the books mention the havoc done in the Church with Vatican Council II(Cushingite). THE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH CAN ALSO BE INCLUDED IN THE CATECHISM LIST
So Whispers of Restoration would have an article on Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) without rejecting the other catechisms and other articles presently there.
It would then be possible to include the Catechism of the Catholic Church(1994) on the website.
So the liberals would observe that the old ecclesiology is not being rejected ( See Resource on Worship with Non Catholics).They would see that the old catechisms are being cited which are Feeneyite. So Feeneyite EENS is not being rejected.So mentioning Vatican Council II (F) is important.
The liberals reject EENS(Feeneyite) and the past ecclesiology since they only know of Vatican Council II(Cushingite) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church(Cushingite).This has to be kept in mind.
Fr.John Zuhlsdorf, conservative, is a liberal on this issue, probably out of ignorance.He does not know about the Feeneyite possibility .
Fr. John Zuhlsdorf 1 on his blog writes :
Here is a great resource for life and limb in the Church. At a website called Whispers Of Restoration there is a page that link you to Traditional Catechisms. It’s pretty amazing. You can find them all, from the 1555 Catechism of St Peter Canisius to the 1874 Familiar Explanation of Christian Doctrine to the 1949 classic My Catholic Faith. This is a terrific resource which you should take time to explore. Say a prayer for the team that made it. It is clearly a labor of love. Meanwhile, here are a few links to good catechisms to purchase. We have multiple catechisms at our disposal. Chief among them are these. The Catechism of the Catholic Church. US HERE – UK HERE (There are many editions. Look around.)
He does not say that the Catechism of the Catholic Church is missing on the new website . This will change when there is an article on the supporting Feeneyite theology. The team must state that all magisterial documents including the 1994 Catechism of the Catholic Church, can be interpreted with Feeneyism.
Then the 1994 Catechism can be included in the list of catechisms on the new website. FR.Z CAN THEN AFFIRM VATICAN COUNCIL II AND THE OLD CATECHISMS Fr.Z could then safely affirm Feeneyite EENS along with Feeneyite Vatican Council II and the Catechism of 1994 also interpreted with Feeneyism - as are the old catechisms.The National Catholic Reporter correspondents would no more be able to accuse Fr. Z of rejecting Vatican Council II.He could now openly say that he supports the old catechisms, the old ecclesiology of the Church expressed in them along with Vatican Council II (Feeneyite) and the 1994 Catechism( Feeneyite).
DEPARTMENT OF THEOLOGY, ANGELICUM This though would be troubling for the Department of Theology of the University of St. Thomas Aquinas(Angelicum) Rome.Since they teach a new theology based upon the Cushingite interpretation of Vatican Council II.The website would be rejecting it.
The Angelicum presently contradicts Vatican Council II ( Feeneyite) and the catechisms since 1555.They are in a schism with the past popes and in heresy on EENS,Vatican Council II and the 1994 Catechism all interpreted as a rupture with Tradition.
So to sum up: an article on the new website is needed affirming Vatican Council II( Feeneyite) to begin with.Then there could be articles on EENS( Feeneyite) and the Catechism of the Catholic Church( Feeneyite).-Lionel Andrades
We live in confusing times. Confusion racks the Church, like horses pulling limb in four directions. Confused faithful even wonder about the indefectibility of the Church or their continued membership. Confusion like this is a sign of the Devil’s work.
Do not be afraid. Do not lose heart. Do not give up.
For a while now, I have been telling people in person and on this blog that when something confusing comes their way, it is time to get out your trustworthy catechisms and even found study groups. ¡Hagan lío!
Fathers! Get up into that pulpit with your catechism and, with finger to page, explainto people what the Church truly teaches. The pulls of confusion upon the members of the Church are painful. They are also opportunities to get out there teach the truth.
To teach it you must know it. Nemo dat quod non ‘got’.
Here is a great resource for life and limb in the Church.
At a website called Whispers Of Restoration there is a page that link you to Traditional Catechisms. It’s pretty amazing. You can find them all, from the 1555 Catechism of St Peter Canisius to the 1874 Familiar Explanation of Christian Doctrine to the 1949 classic My Catholic Faith.
This is a terrific resource which you should take time to explore. Say a prayer for the team that made it. It is clearly a labor of love.
Meanwhile, here are a few links to good catechisms to purchase.
We have multiple catechisms at our disposal. Chief among them are these.
Also, the Baltimore Catechism, which has different volumes for different ages (US HERE – UK HERE). It’s so useful, in its Q&A format.
And the Catechism of Pius X is also great. (US HERE – UK HERE). There are many good resources available.
http://wdtprs.com/blog/2018/07/what-catholics-do-when-the-churchs-body-is-being-torn-apart/ _____________________________________ JULY 25, 2018
Whispers of Restoration must include the 1994 Catechism with a note on interpreting it with Feeneyism and avoiding the common Cushingism http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/07/whispers-of-restoration-must-include.html
JULY 30, 2018
Fr.Leonard Feeney,Sr.Catherine Clarke Goddard and Bro. Francis Malus MICM the founders of the St. Benedict Centers, the communities of the Slaves of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, never said in public that Vatican Council II without the irrational premise supports their traditional interpretation of the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
Louie Verrecchio has also interpreted Unitatis Redintigratio 3 like the St.Benedict Centers, the SSPX and the sedevacantists Bishop Donald Sanborn and Mark Pivarunas. Vatican Council II emerges a rupture with the dogma EENS and so they consider the Council heretical