When a bishop recites the Oath of Fidelity he must also vow to interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II as referring to invisible and not visible people in the present times.They are not examples of known people saved outside the Catholic Church.Presently all the bishops assume that these hypothetical cases are objective people in 2019. They are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the past ecclesiology. So with this error they recite the Nicene Creed. So their Oath of Fidelity becomes an oath affirming heresy and modernism.

When a bishop recites the Oath of Fidelity he must also vow to interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II as referring to invisible and not visible people in the present times.They are not examples of known people saved outside the Catholic Church.Presently all the bishops assume that these hypothetical cases are objective people in 2019. They are exceptions to extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the past ecclesiology. So with this error they recite the Nicene Creed. So their Oath of Fidelity becomes an oath affirming heresy and modernism.

Similarly before a Profession of Faith, of a priest or nun, needs to clarify , that he or she, will interpret magisterial documents ir-rationally.They must not be obedient to a superior, for example, who interprets Vatican Council II, irrationally.

Since if LG 8 etc refers to visible people saved outside the Church, there is known salvation outside the Church. So the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors and Catechisms, which affirm the past ecclesiology are obsolete.The interpretation of the Nicene and Apostles Creed also changes.

If LG 8 etc in Vatican Council II refer to hypothetical cases only, then they are not objective examples of salvation outside the Church. They are are not literal exceptions  to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed, Syllabus of Errors etc.There is no change in our understanding of the Nicene and Apostles Creed .Outside the Church there is no salvation and there is one known baptism for the forgiveness of sins which can be administered repeatedly. There are not three personally known baptisms. We cannot see someone receive the baptism of desire and neither can we give it to someone.

I have mentioned in a previous blog post that the Profession of Faith is useless today. The Oath Against Modernism is meaningless.Instead Catholics should be asked how do they interpret Vatican Council II. How do they interpret LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II ? Are they invisible or visible, implicit or explicit, subjective or objective,hypothetical or real, for you ?. This decides it.It decides if we are faithful or modernist, orthodox or unorthodox.It decides if we really are Catholic or heretical.One interpretation is rational and the other irrational.1

-Lionel Andrades

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NOVEMBER 23, 2019

Profession of Faith, Oath Against Modernism are meaningless : Vatican Council's interpretation creates orthodoxy or heresy, modernism or faithfulness to the Catholic faith

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/11/profession-of-faith-oath-against.html

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 NOVEMBER 28, 2018

Oath of Fidelity of Bishops has become an Oath Supporting Modernism. It is infedelity with the past Magisterium  https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/11/oath-of-fidelity-of-bishops-has-become.html

APRIL 4, 2018

There will be a false Profession of Faith at the Conference this Saturday in Rome

https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2018/04/there-will-be-false-profession-of-faith.html

APRIL 2, 2018

Meaningless Profession of Faith was made yesterday in Church for Easterhttp://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/04/meaningless-profession-of-faith-was.html

JANUARY 7, 2018

So we are all in the same Church but the Profession of Faith does not have the same meaning.  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/so-we-are-all-in-same-church-but.html

JANUARY 7, 2018

'Christian Marriage' at Catholic church near Vatican is official adultery: San Gregorio VII Papa, Via del Cottolengo, Rome

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2018/01/at-catholic-church-san-gregorio-vii.html

 DECEMBER 10, 2017

Oath of fidelity made by all Bishops officially supports irrationality, heresy and non traditional conclusions

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/12/oath-of-fidelity-made-by-all-bishops.html

JULY 27, 2016

Cardinal Burke and Fr.John Zuhlsdorf are not speaking with clarity.It needs to be said that all non Catholics are on the way to Hell unless they convert into the Church and Vatican Council II says this. I repeat Vatican Council II says so  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/07/cardinal-burke-and-frjohn-zuhlsdorf-are.html

OCTOBER 11, 2016

Cardinal Raymond Burke : politically correct on Islam

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/cardinal-raymond-burke-politically.html

October 8, 2016

Cardinal Raymond Burke does not realize that the Catholic identity has been compromised with his belief in there being known salvation outside the Church

http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2016/10/cardinal-raymond-burke-does-not-realize.html

AUGUST 20, 2017

Formal correction of two popes and three 'dubbia cardinals' needed on extra ecclesiam nulla salus and Vatican Council II http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/08/formal-correction-of-two-popes-and.html 

AUGUST 21, 2017

Formal correction of Cardinal Raymond Burke needed : not reported by media  http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.it/2017/08/formal-correction-of-cardinal-raymond.html

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