During
the time of the Papal States in Europe there was no liberalism. The liberalism
has come into the Catholic Church with Vatican Council II (irrational). With
Vatican Council II (rational) we return to the Catholic faith of the Papal
States.
Before
the 1930’s the Church could proclaim that outside the Catholic Church there is
no salvation. Since the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible
ignorance were invisible and hypothetical cases only. But today they are alleged objective examples of salvation outside the Church. They are personally known
non Catholics saved without faith and the baptism of water. So in the past the
ecclesiology was exclusive and so they could proclaim the Social Reign of
Christ the King in all political legislation. It was necessary to be a Catholic
to go to Heaven.So the Government should be Catholic to save souls from
damnation. Ideally there should no separation between Church and State like
at the time of the Austro Hungarian Catholic Empire.
But
today with the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II, there are
exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, which has become
obsolete.
When
we interpret Vatican Council II rationally we return to the faith, morals,
mission, government and liturgy as during the time of the Papal States in Europe.
Europe was Catholic and not just Christian. The civilization was Catholic. The
developments in science and culture came from the Catholic Church. -Lionel Andrades
MAY 8, 2018
It is only when Catholics have unity in theology and doctrine that Europe can go back to its Catholic roots
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 2023
If the Lega as a political party would interpret Vatican Council II rationally then they could ask Pope Francis to come back to Tradition and be a conservative pope, like the popes over history in Italy.
If the Lega as a political party would interpret Vatican Council II rationally i.e. LG 8, LG 14, LG 16, UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc, refer to only hypothetical and physically invisible cases in 1965-2023) then they could ask Pope Francis to come back to Tradition and be a conservative pope, like the popes over history in Italy.
When Vatican Council II is interpreted rationally, is has no exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus (EENS). It was known to the popes during the time of the Papal States in Europe that invisible cases of the baptism of desire and being saved in invincible ignorance were no visible exceptions for the traditional strict interpretation of EENS. Europe was Catholic. It was known at the time of the Austro-Hungarian Catholic Empire that the dogma EENS meant all non Catholics are oriented to Hell without Catholic faith and the baptism of water. Europe was Roman Catholic and not just Christian. The Catholic Church in Europe was the center for the growth of science, astronomy etc.
It was understood at that time that in Heaven there are only Catholics. So it was important to have a non separation of Church and State and the proclamation of the Social Reign of Christ the King in all politics legislation to save souls from the fires of Hell.
VATICAN COUNCIL II MUST NO LONGER BE LIBERAL
Now the right wing political parties cannot get the support of a liberal Catholic Church because Vatican Council II is liberal, as it is commonly interpreted.It is commonly irrationally i.e. it has objective exceptions in 1965-2023 for the dogma EENS. So the Athanasius Creed which says all need to be members of the Catholic Church for salvation is made obsolete. Since there is alleged ‘known salvation’ outside the Catholic Church it is asked why should everyone be Catholic? Sinceit is assumed there is known salvation outside the Church and not everyone needs to enter the Church, there is a New Theology.It says outside the Church there is salvation. With this error in theology they created a New Theology, New Ecumenism, New Ecclesiology, New Evangelization and New Canon Law. All the ‘new stuff’ is based upon the irrational interpretation of Vatican Council II.
But now we know how the New Theology was created upon an error.It was the interpretation of Vatican Council II irrationally and not rationally. So the foundation of the New Theology is fake.
It is in the interest of the political parties like the Lega, Forza Nuova etc, to only interpret Vatican Council II rationally and insist that the Vatican and the Italian Government do the same. This is also ethical in the secular sense. - Lionel Andrades
SEPTEMBER 18, 2023
Salvini and Le Pen have made an alliance at Pontida but without the Catholic Church. If they interpreted Vatican Council II rationally the Church would be forced to do the same and then the Catholic Church would be conservative once again.
Salvini and Le Pen have made an alliance at Pontida but without the Catholic Church. If they interpreted Vatican Council II rationally the Church would be forced to do the same and then the Catholic Church would be conservative once again. - Lionel Andrades
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SEPTEMBER 9, 2023
The discovery
The discovery
We have a discovery today. It’s ‘a small point’ but this small point turns the Council around. From liberalism the Council returns to Tradition. So by ignoring this small point, we have liberalism in the Church. This small point, is the premise: the rational and irrational premise. It decides if Vatican Council II has a continuity or break with Tradition. This is the discovery. We now have a switch. We can turn it off or on. We can choose a continuity with the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus, the Athanasius Creed and the Syllabus of Errors or a rupture with Tradition. -Lionel Andrades
Lionel Andrades
former Staff Reporter, daily Morning News, Karachi, Pakistan.
Recipient of the All Pakistan Newspaper Society (APNS) Best Reporter of the Year Award, presented by the Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto.
Recipient of the Pakistan Government's Award for Literature ( Childrens stories).
Teacher of English and Church History at the Catholic Minor Seminary, Rawalpindi.
Bishop Anthony Lobo
Sent to Rome for Ministerial Priesthood by Bishop Anthony Lobo, bishop of Rawalpindi-Islamabad, Pakistan.
Discriminated against by the pontifical universities and seminaries in Rome.He interprets Vatican Council II rationally and not irrationally. So there is a continuity with Tradition. He is not allowed to study at pontifical universities in Rome, where it is obligatory to interpret Magisterial Documents, irrationally and unethically.Catholic students and seminarians are discriminated against. This is public and official.
However we have a new discovery in the Catholic Church. There are two interpretations of Vatican Council II, one is rational and the other is irrational, one is interpreted with the false premise and the other without it. One is Magisterial and the other, the common one, is non Magisterial.How can the Holy Spirit make an objective mistake ? So it is human error and not the Magisterium.
Vatican Council II is dogmatic and not only pastoral, when it is interpreted rationally i.e LG 8,14,15,16,UR 3, NA 2, GS 22 etc in Vatican Council II refer to only hypothetical cases. So they are not objective examples of salvation. They are not objective exceptions for the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus and the Athanasius Creed.
It is the same for the Creeds and Catechisms. There can be two interpretations.Catholics must choose the rational option.The Creeds must not be changed.
Why should Catholics choose an irrational version of the Creeds, Catechisms and Councils, which is heretical, non-traditional and schismatic, when a rational option is there which is traditional?
It is unethical when the popes, cardinals and bishops choose the Irrational Premise to interpret Vatican Council II and other Magisterial Documents and call it Catholic.
Rahner, Ratzinger, Congar, Murray, Balthazar, Kung, Lefebvre and Paul VI interpreted Vatican Council II irrationally. We can today choose to interpret the Council rationally and in harmony with Tradition.
Blog: http://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/
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ONLY THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SOLAMENTE LA CHIESA CATTOLICA
SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 2020
Think of the hundreds of thousands of books on Vatican Council II all produced with a small defect. A small premise was used to end Tradition and the popes approved it.
Think of the hundreds of thousands of books on Vatican Council II all produced with a small defect. A small premise was used to end Tradition and the popes approved it. -Lionel Andrades
JULY 17, 2019
Mattei and Ferrara read Vatican Council II superficially and wrote books misleading Catholics ( Graphics)
-Lionel Andrades
JULY 17, 2019
Priest says Europe was Christian(Catholic) in the past and laments : but he chooses not to interpret the Faith like Catholic Europe
JULY 17, 2019
JULY 17, 2019
Priest in Canada writes politically- correct- with- the- Left article on Dominus IesusJULY 16, 2019
Catechesis for Catholic Proclamation and EvangelisationJULY 16, 2019
The popes before Pius XII knew that the baptism of desire(BOD), baptism of blood(BOB) and being saved in invincible ignorance(I.I) always referred to hypothetical cases.But the popes from John XXIII to Francis,if they knew about it did not mention this in public.They let Catholics believe that BOD, BOB and I.I were visible and known exceptions to the dogma extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).From Pope Paul VI this was the new interpretation of the Council
JULY 15, 2019
Participants at summer conference in Italy contradict the popes over the centuries and yet call themselves traditionalists
JULY 15, 2019
Priest says Europe was Christian(Catholic) in the past and laments : but he chooses not to interpret the Faith like Catholic Europe
HOLY MASS IN ITALIAN YESTERDAY
Like, Christopher Ferrara he read Vatican Council II superficially and then wrote books misleading Catholics.
On Fr.Zuhlsdorf' blog there is report on the St.Paul Center Conference for priests.There is a photo of Ralph Martin speaking on the New Evangelisation.Martin knows that possibilities of being saved in invincible ignorane, the baptism of desire and the baptism of blood are not real people in the present times(2018-2019). He knows that they cannot be examples of salvation outside the Church.But he will not admit it. Since he does not want to affirm Feeneyite extra ecclesiam nulla salus(EENS).
So Ralph Martin and his Renewal Ministries members believe that unknown cases of BOD,BOB and I.I are known exceptions to the dogma EENS and this is Magisterial, in other words inspired by the Holy Sprit for him.
So since there is personally know salvation outside the Church for him, he supports a New Evangelisation, New Theology, New Ecclesiology.
This is the Ecclesiology that Scott Hahn teaches. Try and imagine Scott Hahn and all those priests saying that LG 8 etc refers to only hypothetical cases and so Vatican Council II does contradict EENS as it was known to the Magisterium in the 16th century.Can you see Ralph Martin and Scott Hahn speaking the truth about the Faith knowing that it will be the end of their careers as apologists?-Lionel Andrades
http://wdtprs.com/blog/2019/07/day-1-st-paul-center-priesthood-conference/
https://stpaulcenter.com/2019-east-coast-priest-conference/
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Why do you not interpret the Council II in this way ?
"Anglo-Catholic Priest Excommunocated for Criticizing Post-Conciliar Popes"
Michael Dowd said...I don't think the Popes were irrational. Rather were intentional. The entire point of Vatican II was to Protestantize the Catholic Church. This has now largely been accomplished. Most Catholics are Protestant in their moral thinking and actions.
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JULY 17, 2019
Priest in Canada writes politically- correct- with- the- Left article on Dominus Iesus
https://eucharistandmission.blogspot.com/2019/07/priest-in-canada-writes-politically.html
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